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Hawks in Australia

To: "Dave Torr" <>, "Kevin and Lizzie" <>
Subject: Hawks in Australia
From: "John Harris" <>
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 15:07:54 +1100
Such as Harris' Hawk, Parabuteo unicinctus. Great Name that!!


 
 
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Regards

John Harris
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>>> Kevin and Lizzie <> 31/03/2011 2:36 PM >>>
But...in  a non-technical sense, the word Hawk can be used much more
broadly, eg the Shorter OED suggests it can cover all diurnal raptors
(as well as offering a more detailed definition, but still broader than
just
*accipitrinae*). And there are lots of species outside *acciptrinae
*with
hawk in their English name: Bat Hawk is one which springs to mind, and
in
North America plenty of *buteos.*

**Kevin Stracey
North Adelaide

On 31 March 2011 12:29, Dave Torr <> wrote:

> Basically yes - Accipters are commonly called Hawks, and many of them
are
> either Goshawks or Sparrowhawks, although some are just called Hawks
and at
> least one (Shikra) doesn;t mention Hawk at all. We have no Aussie
birds
> called "Hawks" without the Sparrow- or Gos- prefix. And to clarify
all
> Goshawks/Sparrowhawks are Hawks.
>
> On 31 March 2011 09:00, Mark and Amanda Young
<
> >wrote:
>
> > G'day everyone,
> >
> >
> >
> > Are Goshawks a type of Hawk, or is a Hawk different from a Goshawk?
A
> > friend
> > forwarded this wiki link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accipitrinae
to me
> > showing that Goshawks and Hawks are together in the Genus Accipter
.
> >
> > Now I don't know anything about how the classification of birds
works, so
> > does that mean that all birds that are in Accipter are essentially
Hawks
> > even though it may be called a Goshawk, or Sparrowhawk etc?
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Mark
> >
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