Denise, we are not poorer, we just have less money than some:-)
Carl Clifford
On 13/01/2011, at 11:28 AM, Denise Goodfellow wrote:
Good on you, Carl. You and your Mum typify the giving behaviour of
Australians. It tends to be the poorer who donate the most.
Denise
on 13/1/11 9:19 AM, Carl Clifford at wrote:
Denise,
A very good point. My mother and I have donated the equivalent of one
week's pension each to the flood appeals. We can get by without it and
there are thousands of people up there who need it much more.
I urge all birding-ausers to dig deep and donate as much as they can
to this cause. And remember, it is only chance that a disaster like
this does not occur where you live and you too have to be reliant on
the generosity of strangers.
Dig Deep,
Carl Clifford
On 13/01/2011, at 10:04 AM, Denise Goodfellow wrote:
On the subject of the Queensland floods, may I suggest that birders,
instead
of chasing that next new bird for Australia, donate the money to their
fellow human beings. If Michael and I, on our limited income, can
afford to
donate over $100 a month (to all causes), then I'm sure those who can
afford
to go chasing birds in remote places could come up with a decent sum.
Denise L Goodfellow
on 13/1/11 7:57 AM, Dave Torr at wrote:
Wildlife conservation is in many cases these days also a matter for
private
individuals etc - not just governments. I know many dedicated
individuals
who do their bit for conservation with little or no government help.
I tend to agree that the presence of a rarity on Christmas I (or
wherever)
does little directly to promote conservation - however the more
birders
visit such places (whether for rarities or the endemics or both) the
more
the local see that there is a value in preserving the eco system and
the
more likely they are to pressure for this to occur. This is not just
an
Aussie phenomenon of course - the local people (and government) need
to see
there is a value in "nature" (because people pay to come and see it
and
provide employment etc) and that perhaps this is a better way to go
than
chopping everything down.
On 13 January 2011 08:56, Julian B <> wrote:
Greetings David
I'd hate to fall out with a fellow birder on so trivial a matter
but I
still
cannot see, or understand, the connection between the two [to me]
separate
threads.
Chasing after rarities, especially new records, is in the realms of
TWITCHING; wildlife conservation [be it birds, reptiles or a
elongated
creepy-crawly] is a Government initiative. The two rarely coincide.
Or are we to understand that if the likes of Mike Carter confirm the
presence of a Lesser-spotted Oompahloompah on the Cocos Keeling
Islands the
Australian Government suddenly drops all other business in hand to
assure
the wellbeing of the creature - [and I have a lot of admiration for
both
Mike's ability and willingness to drop everything at a moment's
notice and
shoot off to "find" or verify a rare sighting]?
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