What the heck do we call the Koel?

To: Patrick Scully <>
Subject: What the heck do we call the Koel?
From: Alan McBride <>
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 13:45:30 +1100
To quote C & B 2008....

Eastern Koel    Eudynamys orientalis

C & B follows Mason (1997).  

Under this division, the oldest available name for the species occurring in 
Australia is orientalis Linnaeus, 1766, which has priority over E. 
cyanocephalus Latham, 1801. This necessitates the introduction of a new English 
name for E. orientalis. Mason (1997) used the name Pacific Koel but as the 
species occurs throughout eastern Indonesia, the Moluccas, New Guinea, northern 
Melanesia and Australia, Eastern Koel is a more appropriate name. 

Consequently the three species in the E. scolopaceus complex as recognised here 

E. orientalis (Eastern Koel); 
E. scolopaceus (Asian Koel; southern Asia through to western Lesser Sundas and 
the Philippines) and 
E. melanorhynchus (Black-billed Koel; Sulawesi, Sula)

Hope this helps.


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On 10/11/2010, at 13:23 , Patrick Scully wrote:

Hi All,
After reading of the the reported Koel at Victoria Bridge, Richmond, I poped
down there yesterday and heard a Koel calling (I recognised the call after
hearing and seeing  it in Newcastle) for around ten minutes. I didn't have
the time to look further but it was on the East side of the river (opposite
side to the bike track) just upstream of the bridge. later like the other
person,  I pondered on the correct name, as it was reported as both the
Eastern and the Austrlian Koel. My old Simpson and day calls it the Common
Koel as does my Morcombe, Pizzey and Knight 8th Ed calls it the Eastern Koel
and the most recent Simpson and Day (2010) calls it the Eastern (Common)
Koel. If it is now properly called the Australian Koel?, does this mean that
it does not migrate to PNG and Indonesia?
Happy birding,
Patrick Scully

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