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Princess Parrot Situation-

To: "'Mark Carter'" <>, <>
Subject: Princess Parrot Situation-
From: "Paul G Dodd" <>
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 19:11:36 +1000
Hi everyone,

Since I am a member of one of the groups heading to the Red Centre in the
forthcoming weeks, I would like to state for the record that I have applied
for all necessary permits and sought the requisite permission to enter the
areas that he parrots have been seen most recently. I have personally spoken
to the CLC and sent them detailed maps of where we intend travelling, the
tracks that we intend taking and the dates that we intend travelling to the
area. We have allowed sufficient time for the permit to be issued, assuming
that it will be issued, based on direction from the CLC.

I should add that my wife, Ruth, and I have planned a visit to the Red
Centre at this time for almost the past year. We originally has no intention
of trying for the Princess Parrots until, by coincidence, they were reported
so close to Kings Canyon. The fact that they are present and, with any luck,
we'll get a permit is simply a bonus for us.

The other birders that I have spoken to have all expressed their intention
to apply for permits (or they have already applied). I strongly urge
everyone travelling to the area to call the CLC and ask them which permit to
apply for, and how to apply for it. Additionally, allow sufficient time for
the permit to be issued.

Paul Dodd
Docklands, Victoria


-----Original Message-----
From: 
 On Behalf Of Mark Carter
Sent: Tuesday, 10 August 2010 6:26 PM
To: 
Subject: Princess Parrot Situation-

Hi All.
I'm getting a bit concerned about the unfolding situation around the newly
leaked Princess Parrot site west of Alice. The land where the birds are is
aboriginal land- permits are required to access the area. I know most people
will say they want to do the right thing but will that extend to a situation
where doing the right thing will mean not getting anywhere near the
birds? The Central Land Council have quoted me a minimum of one month to
process permit applications for the sites- that is assuming traditional
owners are amenable to permits being issued at all which is not a given by
any means. In my experience such permits regularly take longer than
predicted and refusals are not unknown. There are no short-cuts.The CLC are
now aware of the many groups planning trips out here so anyone thinking of
heading to the site 'under the radar' had better reconsider- chances are you
will get busted. The fines for trespassing out there will be painful but
there
 is also a bigger picture you should consider. A trespassing twitch event
out here could do massive harm to the reputation of birders in the Red
Centre. Access to wildlife sites can be very difficult for us locals as it
is- I worry that trespassing birders in the coming weeks will lead to the
reputation of birding being tarnished and local naturalists being denied
access to country through no fault of our own. So, if you are coming out
here please stick to the permit process. If you don't get approval in time
for your trip then consider visiting other sites such as AWC Newhaven or
National Parks instead- conditions now are fantastic and Red Centre specials
such as Rufous-crowned Emu-wren, Slaty-back Thornbill and Grey Honeyeater
are out in good numbers.  
Mark CarterAlice Springs



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