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Re: Re: [Birding-Aus] a conservation win

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Subject: Re: Re: [Birding-Aus] a conservation win
From: Dave Torr <>
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 11:55:54 +1100
Not just "capitalist" John - most of the (perhaps so-called) socialist
regimes in the world have been at least as bad as the capitalist regimes in
terms of environmental degradation - and arguably with less to show for it!

2010/1/31 <>

> At the highest level setting a sustainable level for human population and
> human consumption is the challenge.
>
> This would be allowed a human existence of hundreds of thousands of years,
> if not millions, allowing thousands of successive generations of people to
> live in the highest quality environment, where contact with 'nature' is an
> everyday occurrence, and doesn't just occur at the weekends in theme parks.
>
> That, I take it is, the Green ideal: humans-in-nature, nature-with-humans.
>
> Against this you have to set the capitalist ideal of as many people and as
> much consumption as possible in the shortest possible time, which will
> inevitably lead to ecological collapse and a rather short history for
> humanity.
>
> The green ideal is the one which will allow the greater number of
> individuals to live in total, in the long run, and with a higher quality of
> life.
>
> As I have been typing this, my partner spotted a Wedge-tailed Eagle soaring
> over the house, the first time we have seen one here in 16 years. Omen or
> what?
>
> :-)
>
> John Leonard
>
>
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>  David,
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>
>  Your rant is well justified.
>>
>
>
>
>  Perhaps you could help me out. I have been asking many people to define
>> 'sustainable' even at conferences with sustainability as a theme. I know
>> that language changes but ....
>>
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>
>  Regards,
>>
>
>  Alan
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