Slater v 2

To: "'Mike Carter'" <>, "'Phil Gregory'" <>, <>
Subject: Slater v 2
From: "Jeff Davies" <>
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:29:46 +1100
Thanks for this Mike, 

have you noticed that Peter has put Pallas's Leaf Warbler in the new edition
by mistake instead of Pallas's Grasshopper Warbler for the recent Xmas
Island record. Woops, or is he referring to some other non-BARC'd claim.

Cheers Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Carter  
Sent: Wednesday, 7 October 2009 12:30 PM
To: Jeff Davies; 'Phil Gregory'; 
Cc: John Darnell; Neil Cheshire
Subject: Slater v 2

Hi Jeff,

Yes, Frilled Monarch is in C&B but what Phil said was that Frilled-necked 
Monarch was not in C&B and he is right. Those two taxons were split as 
species by Schodde and both included by him in the Directory of Australian 
Birds 1999 following a report of the New Guinea form on Boigu in Carter et 
al. 1997, a paper in the Australian Bird Watcher. Schodde called the NG bird

Frilled Monarch and its Australian relative Frill-necked Monarch. The split 
was to be followed by HANZAB but was dropped just prior to publication. So 
if I followed Slater, I'd have another Australian tick! And that wouldn't be

the only one!

Trindade Petrel may be the current preferred name but that doesn't mean that

the species was named after the island in the Indian Ocean, in fact it 
wasn't. The species used to be called Trinidad Petrel known from islands of 
that name in both the Atlantic and Indian Oceans, see Alexanders' Birds Of 
the Ocean 1955 but first published in 1928. My old atlas's call those 
islands Trinidad but modern ones call them Trindade. Why the bird's name 
should also change seems silly to me. We haven't changed New Holland 
Honeyeater to Australian Honeyeater have we? And according to Robert Cushman

Murphy in Oceanic Birds of South America 1936, 'South Trinidad Petrel', 
Pterodroma arminjoniana, was named after the island in the Atlantic because 
it bred there (and the neighbouring Martin Vas Rocks).
Trindade Petrel does not belong on the Australian list. When Herald and 
Trinidad Petrels were split CSIRO and DEH assumed that because the Cocos 
Islands are in the Indian Ocean, Herald Petrels reported there had to be 
Trinidad. However, the photographs clearly show that they were Herald 
Petrels as are all records of those Petrels from WA.

Trinidad flows off the tongue but someone is going to have to teach me how 
to say Trindade, a clumsy word.

Thanks Phil for that summary of the changes in the new Slater guide.

Mike Carter
30 Canadian Bay Road
Mount Eliza  VIC 3930
Tel  (03) 9787 7136

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