"When considered in context of the hundreds, perhaps thousands of leg
flagged godwits that have been manacled, the statement "that a small
flag
and aluminium band harmlessly attached to its legs" is no more than an
optimistic assumption when evaluating the return rate of the few
survivors."
Sorry Ian, whilst sympathising to some extent with your view, I think
that your comment is somewhat full of assumptions, particularly the
use of the words like "manacled" and "survivors". It is odd that the
original author used the word "harmlessly", one would hope that is the
case before setting out to conduct flagging projects.
I tend to believe that cannon netting is conducted too frequently in
some areas at some times (and admittedly that is based on my own
assumptions and you can buy an argument there). However if we didn't
have netting and flagging projects for migratory shorebirds we'd be
years behind in the type of knowledge required to aid to conservation
measures. We would be able to confirm very little about their lives
and that's a fact.
I have seen many hundreds of banded shorebirds and only one (Broad-
billed Sandpiper) which seemed mildly distressed by the leg flag it
was wearing. All the others seemed no more disturbed than I am with
the rings on my fingers: i.e. not at all.
Ricki Coughlan
http://www.redtail.net.au
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:30:33 +1000
From: Chris Sanderson <>
Subject: Bar-tailed Godwit banded in Victoria found
in Western Alaska
To: Ian May <>
Cc: Birding-aus <>
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Can we please not have this conversation again...
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Ian May <> wrote:
Yeah sure thing.
"they spotted a bar-tailed godwit with a small orange flag and
aluminum
band harmlessly attached to its legs. Further research revealed that"
When considered in context of the hundreds, perhaps thousands of leg
flagged godwits that have been manacled, the statement "that a small
flag
and aluminium band harmlessly attached to its legs" is no more than an
optimistic assumption when evaluating the return rate of the few
survivors.
Regards
Ian May
St Helens, Tasmania
John Leonard wrote:
The original story was a 'Bar-tailed Godwit banded near Victoria....'
Pretty big area!
John Leonard
2009/8/7 Terry Bishop <>:
Had a nice flight thanks!!
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/08/090804215021.htm
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