Chris,
 A few years ago, I would have thought the same thing. I have visited  
M'sia quite a few times in the last 10 years or so, and have seen a  
growing grass-roots environmental movement, thanks to the efforts of  
groups such as the Malaysian Nature Society, WWF, etc. Ordinary  
Malaysians are realising that there is a real problem with their  
environment, and have been pressuring the pollies and appealing to the  
Royal Families, many of who have become very environmentally aware. A  
couple of years ago I was fortunate to meet the Raja Permaisuri  
(Queen) of Perak, in Taman Negara, and she was very concerned about  
environmental problems in the country. The incumbent UMNO party has  
been losing ground in Parliament, and the former laissez-faire  
attitude to the environment in the government is also losing ground,  
so hopefully change is really on the way. I certainly hope so, for the  
Malaysians sake.
 As to your second question "that a registration system in Australia  
could apply pressure in that direction too?" Well I am not going to  
prognosticate on what can happen in a society, because anything can  
happen. Just look at what turmoil occurred in German society in the  
first third of the 20th C or Greece in between 1967 and 1974.
 As to large corporations, well they are regularly shown to be less  
efficient and competent than smaller competitors, but unfortunately  
they have the financial reserves to overwhelm the little blokes, but  
that's economics for you.
Regards,
Carl Clifford
On 22/06/2009, at 9:51 PM, Chris Charles wrote:
Carl,
The findings of your ferreting may suggest something else.
 You say that Malaysia has a registration system for environmental  
consultants but is perceived to have a poor record of environmental  
action.
Could it be that to achieve registration in Malaysia, a company must  
have certain political credentials?
Could it be that a registration system in Australia could apply  
pressure in that direction too?
 What reason do we have to assume that a large prestigious registered  
company that has invested in its 'Brand' will do a better job  
technically than a small company?
I cant see how registration would change Chris Brandis' experience.  
More likely to entrench the 'safe' option of citing an  established  
name rather than a little known local (sorry Chris).
Regards, Chris
Chris Charles
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On 22/06/2009, at 6:54 PM, Carl Clifford wrote:
 
Dear All,
 It seems I started a discussion on a subject that some members of B- 
A feel passionately about. Interestingly, there has not been a post  
against the subjects I raised. A couple of respondents thought that  
I had used too wide a brush in including all consultants, which I  
did not intend, I actually was referring to those consultants whose  
work might potentially have a negative effect on the Public Good. In  
areas where the consultancy may have an adverse effect on Private  
Goods, well I think it should remain a case of caveat emptor,  
perhaps with the exception of the various forms of Financial  
Consultants.
 The reason I asked the original questions is that my curiosity was  
piqued by a ferret through the Malaysian Department of Environment's  
web site on another matter. I noticed on their home page  http://www.doe.gov.my/ 
  , links which led to pages for Environmental Impact Assessment  
(EIA) consultant registration, listings of registered environmental  
consultants and listings of EIA reports for public review, etc. Here  
is a country which many Australians regard as less than proactive on  
the environment, often justifiably, with an environmental consultant  
registration scheme and a process for the public to be able to  
review reports drawn up by these consultants, yet in Australia,  
nothing.
 I was pleased to see that many in the environmental consultancy  
industry seem to agree that some form of institutionalisation of the  
industry is necessary, as is public access to consultants' reports.
Carl Clifford
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