Red-necked Stint / Little Stint, Western Treatment Plant (Vic)

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Subject: Red-necked Stint / Little Stint, Western Treatment Plant (Vic)
From: Peter Shute <>
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:34:31 +1000
Tim, your birdline of 24/5/09 for Little Stint says "The Little Stint was 
distinctively more chestnut in colour, with orange-rufous coloured wing 
feathers including outer wing feathers, and white V line around the back", 
which contradicts point 5, and possibly 3, if it wasn't a Little Stint.  And 
Steve Davidson's report of 6/6 that mentions "strong chestnut edges to the 
tertials", which contradicts 3.

Does this mean we'd need to identify all the features below to be sure we're 
not looking at a Little Stint?

Peter Shute

Tim Dolby wrote on Wednesday, 17 June 2009 10:01 AM:

> Hi all,
> There have been a couple darker coloured / breeding plumage stints at
> the Spit at the Western Treatment Plant, Victoria. (One birds has an
> injured leg.) After careful analysis it's been concluded that both
> birds are Red-necked Stint, not Little Stint. One bird in particular
> has stood out because it is a brightly coloured bird (for a
> photograph see Birdline Victoria at
> This
> is because it is an adult Red-necked Stint that has not migrated,
> while nearly all the companion birds are first-year Red-necked Stint
> whch lack significant breeding plumage. Thanks Danny Rogers for his
> expertise in this area and careful analysis. The diagnostic
> Red-necked Stint features are:
> 1. LOTS of red on the face and throat. It does have a white chin, but
> this isn't unusual in breeding plumage RNS. Little Stint has a much
> bigger white area on the throat.
> 2. BAND of dark speckling below the red of the throat and upper
> breast. Little Stint lack this, they have dark streaking within the
> buffy rufous of their upper breast.
> 3. WHITE edges to tertials - Little Stint usually have very broad
> rufous outer edges to most or all of their tertials.
> 4. SIMPLE white supercilium - Little Stint adults usually (not
> always) show a split supercilium.
> 5. NO WHITE mantle V - usually present in breeding plumage Little
> Stint.
> 6. GENERAL long-bodied, short-legged appearance - Little Stints are
> slightly longer-legged and shorter-bodied, though it would be brave
> to ID them on that alone.
> Unless another Little Stint turns up I'd suggest that previous
> reports are erroneous.
> On a lighter side this means that I'm now one bird down in terms of
> my 2009 Victorian list, currently sittin at 311 for the year. These
> things happen, c'est la vie. I might have to chase the Brown
> Honeyeater in Kamarooka again, again. See
>  Once again thanks Danny Rogers for
> his assistance.
> Cheers,
> Tim Dolby
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