Facebook and Birding-aus

To: "Kurtis Lindsay" <>
Subject: Facebook and Birding-aus
From: "Dave Torr" <>
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:45:05 +1000
I am not sure why we would need a vote to set one up - surely anyone can set
up a Facebook Group with such a name. I guess the issue is what happens to
Birding Aus - could postings go to both groups or would we end up with two
separate Birding Aus - one on Facebook and one the current one - with people
having to check both if they wanted to see what was going on in the world?
If it is possible to get messages sent to both concurrently (and assume
Russell would need to be involved in that) then I see no real issues in the
whole thing - indiviudals have their own ideas on how useful Favebook is and
can choose to use it or not as they wish. But if it is a question of having
two totally separate groups - one on Facebook and one the current one - then
it just makes the job of keeping up to date harder (especially if one also
wants to monitor state birdlines).

2008/8/29 Kurtis Lindsay <>

> Hi all,
> I think it is an interesting idea to set up a facebook 'group' for
> birding-aus.
> I don't know where many of these ideas that Facebook is 'evil' have come
> from, what I do know is the amount of information one reveals about
> themselves on their personal facebook page is entirely up to them. Therefore
> if you want to advertise your 'age, sex and location' as some would put it,
> then you can, but on the other hand, if you would like to remain a little
> more anonymous (not displaying a picture, name etc.) you can remain so and
> still take advantage of most of what facebook has to offer. e.g joining
> specialist groups.
> Facebook was originally established as a simple social networking website,
> particularly aimed at the teenage-young adult market so people would have
> easier ways of getting in contact with friends and acquaintances.
> The majority of people who use it are therefore those who like to maintain
> a dense social network and be in constant contact with those they want, when
> ever they want. It is less formal and cheaper than most other forms of media
> like telephone calls, letters, sms texts etc. and allows people to contact
> one another in a social situation much easier than one would otherwise.
> As a result of its popularity, facebook has expanded to include many extra
> features including 'groups'. Anyone who is a member of facebook can join a
> group and any member of facebook can make their own group in a matter of
> minutes, hence many groups are trivial, humourous and just plain silly,
> while others are very relevant and informative groups of interest. Since
> joining facebook, I have joined many groups which I often contribute to,
> some of these include "Wildlife Conservation Australia", "Whales, Dolphins
> and other Cetaceans", and various bird related groups (mostly overseas
> ones).
> Peter H. Them said "..the NEOORN list, of which I am
> member, had formed at Facebook group, which is a convenient
> place to post photos, videos, and to network. And see pictures
> of the members. I find this Facebook group is a nice supplement
> for the NEOORN birding list."
> Like with NEOORN, I think a facebook page would also be a nice supplement
> for Birding-aus. It would be an easier way to post links, videos and picture
> without having to go through other sites like photo At the
> same time, I believe it would bring the already friendly, personal
> Birding-aus to an even friendlier level, to a level were listers can get to
> know one another a little better just like members of a club.
> Membership of the group would be strictly filtered by the moderator/s of
> the group, and members would be entirely in charge of what personal
> information they make available to or other members of the
> group.
> Finally, only members of the group would be able to view the groups page
> and the information in it.
> A few examples of already established groups are available in the links
> below:
> 'Bird watching is cool' group - a public group, open for anyone to join.
> Despite the corny name it is quite like Birding-aus in operations:
> Perth Birding - the name says it all:
> Perhaps we should have a vote on the topic of setting up a facebook page?
> If there was a B-A facebook page to be set up, I would nominate my self to
> become one of the moderators or at least help get the ball rolling.
> I would be interested to hear any thoughts.
> Kurtis Lindsay
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