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Re: Help rquired to identify races ofSootyOystercatchers: update No1

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Subject: Re: Help rquired to identify races ofSootyOystercatchers: update No1
From: " Jeff Davies" <>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 00:14:48 +1100
Bob, is there any chance of you getting some photos of Sooty Oystercatchers
from the area between Hastings point and the Queensland border. At the
moment we have classic fuliginosus at Hastings point and what appears to be
opthalmicus type in your area, so what's going on in between, a cline or a
sudden change. I would also to like to throw out again a request for any
photos of birds from north Queensland.

Cheers Jeff.

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 On Behalf Of Robert Inglis
Sent: Wednesday, 30 January 2008 10:42 PM
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Subject: Re: Help rquired to identify races
ofSootyOystercatchers: update No1

Jeff Davies (Wed, 30 Jan 2008 20:45:50 +1100) wrote:

"G'day Robert,

I have been mulling over your pics for a couple of days and I have to say
they look a lot like opthalmicus, and identical to a bird photographed on
Lady Elliot Island by Tom Tarrant. When compared to birds from Broome your
birds have slightly les exposed bare skin around the eyes, but the colour of
the skin is identical ( yellow orange ) and they are nevertheless fleshy.
Can anyone provide an image of a bird from north Queensland for comparison.
Your Hastings Point birds look identical to the nominate fuliginosus birds I
am familiar with in Victoria with narrow red-orange eye-ring.

Cheers Jeff."
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Thanks Jeff, it is such a relief to know that I am not completely 
delusional, or at least there is another person in the same state of mind as

me.

Tom has shown me another photo of the Lady Elliot Island Sooty Oyc and it 
does look to me to be very much like the orange/yellow eye-ring-ed ones in 
my photos.
I have looked at a number of internet photos of southern Australia Sooty 
Oystercatchers and they all seem to have the red-er, narrow-er eye-ring 
similar to the one on the Western Australian bird and the Hastings Point 
Bird I have added to set.
Lady Elliot Island is at the southern extreme of the recognised border 
between the two races so I would suggest that a photograph of a Sooty Oyc 
taken no further south than Mackay would be required to eliminate birds 
which have resulted from interbreeding of the two races.

Cheers

Bob Inglis

Note: I have added some location details to the photos in the Sooty 
Oystercatcher Set at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ptiloris463


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