I guess the taxonomic sequence used in field guides is not of huge
significance for most of us - splits and lumps probably are. I think family
groups are essential, if only because one can usually guess that the bird
you can't identify is a honeyeater or thornbill or whatever so can quickly
go to the right part of the book. Ordering by habitat or appearance would I
think make life harder. But I certainly don't see the need for a new field
guide just to put the families in the "right" order.
On 22/01/2008, Tony Russell <> wrote:
>
> Peter, It's all done to keep us buying new books and to provide the
> authors with income.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> On Behalf Of Peter Shute
> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 5:09 PM
> To: Stephen Ambrose;
> Subject: RE: [Birding-Aus] New Christidis & Boles
>
>
> With all these changes I'm beginning to understand why people gripe so
> much about them - this is my first round of changes, I assume many of
> you have seen many of them.
>
> Can we expect future field guides to modify the order to match these
> changes? If so, and assuming that DNA studies will result in more
> changes than ever before, would it be a silly idea to suggest that
> someone comes up with a separate stable taxonomy purely for
> identification purposes? One where birds that look or act the same are
> left together despite the fact that we know they're really from
> different families?
>
> It would only be used for the ordering of species in field guides,
> checklists, etc.
>
> We have scientific and common names, why can't we have scientific and
> common taxonomies?
>
> Peter Shute
>
> wrote on :
>
> > Not to mention the placement of the fantails & willie wagtail
> > (rhipidurids) between the artamids (woodswallows, butcherbirds &
> > currawongs) and the corvids (crows & ravens), and the
> > monarchs/flycatchers (monarchids) and Australian robins (petroicids)
> > after the corvids, corcoracids (chough &
> > apostlebird) and paradisaeids (riflebirds).
> >
> > Steve, I ordered my copy from CSIRO Publishing.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Stephen
> >
> > Dr Stephen Ambrose
> > Ryde, NSW
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> > On Behalf Of Stuart, Alan
> > AD
> > Sent: Tuesday, 22 January 2008 4:19 PM
> > To:
> > Subject: [Birding-Aus] New Christidis & Boles
> >
> >
> > My copy of the new C&B arrived yesterday too. What a shake up to the
> > taxonomic list! I spent an absorbing couple of hours last night
> > working out where everything had moved to. Tropicbirds are now listed
> > immediately after the ducks, pigeons appear before albatrosses, and
> > many other movements. One change that particularly caught my eye was
> > that the chats now appear in the list between wattlebirds and several
> > species of honeyeaters.
> >
> > Alan Stuart
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> > On Behalf Of Stephen
> > Ambrose
> > Sent: Tuesday, 22 January 2008 2:13 PM
> > To:
> > Subject: RE: [Birding-Aus] Helmeted Guineafowl
> >
> > Steve,
> >
> > My copy of Christidis & Boles (2008) arrived in the mail yesterday.
> > The Helmeted Guineafowl is included in their main list, based on
> > evidence that this species has persisted and bred at several locations
>
> > in northern Qld.
> >
> > Stephen
> >
> > Dr Stephen Ambrose
> > Ryde, NSW
> >
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