Hi all
 Does anyone know a good mailing list or site to discuss this issue and learn 
about remedies ?
 Being a Pom in Melbourne I think Andrew Hobbs and Michael Hunter are right 
about the effects of our urban structure and English bird behaviour being 
more obvious. But here we also have a pioneer mentality of conquering the 
bush.... As a local pollie I face demand for "pristine beaches" which, to me 
means seaweed, shells... and to them means cleansed sand and footprints all 
over.
 How to get people's interest, get them to be informed, and then be involved 
is a long road.  I recently gave some talks on local biodiversity to Year 9s 
and what grabbed their attention was when I asked them if they had seen 
those large blue wasps....
Michael Norris
 PS a Rufous Whistler in a mixed insectivorous flock the other day was the 
first for 4 years: the longest gap between records since I've lived in 
Bayside. 
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