RE: FW: Re: [BIRDING-AUS] Birds in Chile

Subject: RE: FW: Re: [BIRDING-AUS] Birds in Chile
From: "Margaret Roadknight" <>
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 13:44:04 +1100
Hi all,

Yes, I agree that including embassies is pushing things a little!! It is simply too difficult to regulate or define. We'd all be going crazy visiting embassies!!

I think that Tony Palliser's definition includes "territories", not just any political ground, such as embassies. Even this seems puzzling to me, as birds seen on Christmas or Heard Islands are probably just as attached to Australian ecological boundaries as Santiago!!

Perhaps the limits should be defined more by bio-regional boundaries. The best 'Australian list' would be defined by the continental shelf (hence including all the major offshore islands) and the 200NM limit for oceanic birds. But then there is the difficulty in Northern Australia, where the shelf pretty much joins PNG etc.


From: "Graham Labrooy" <>
Subject: FW: Re: [BIRDING-AUS] Birds in Chile
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 12:33:51 +1000

From: Dave Torr <>
Reply-To: Dave Torr <>
To: Graham Labrooy <>
Subject: Re: [BIRDING-AUS] Birds in Chile
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 12:50:10 +1100

The only "official" list that I know of for checking Aussie birders'
totals is
maintained by Tony Palliser, so if you aspire to post your total for
others to see then you would need to adhere to his rules - and I guess
he excludes embassies.

Irrespctive of what the "legal" status if an embassy is (I did a quick
Google but could not find an answer) I think you will find most
birders would not include them.

On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 11:42:07 +1000, Graham Labrooy
<> wrote:
> Hi there,
> I posted a message a while back about Australian lists. I have just returned > from a visit to Santiago, Chile, where I was able to visit the Australian > embassy, in Las Condes. Although the weather was poor I managed to identify > Austral thrush, Picui Ground Dove, Eared Dove and Southern Lapwing whilst > there. Apart from adding to my (very limited) Chilean-list, do these birds > qualify for an Australian list as well?? It is Australian soil is it not?
> Political territory??
> Maybe I am way off the mark, but I would like to know what is standard, as I
> am only new to birding in Australia.
> Thanking you in advance (and thank you to Russell for his reply last time),
> Graham
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