Western Whipbird Q's

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Subject: Western Whipbird Q's
From: Rohan Clarke <>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 10:19:54 +1000
Hi all,
Have had a quick look at Schodde and Mason (1999) (Directory of Aust Birds).
According to the authors the ranges of Western Whipbird P. nigrogularis and
Mallee Whipbird P. leucogaster abut (at least historically) somewhere
between Two Peoples Bay, Stirling Range and Cape Richie/Waychinicup River.
The obvious conclusion is that birds at Two Peoples Bay  are Western
Whipbirds and all those to the north and east are Mallee Whipbirds. A note
of caution though, Schodde and Mason did not examine any birds from Two
Peoples Bay (no specimens exist) and therefore presumably arrived at their
species limits conclusions using specimens collected further to the west
(from what are now extinct populations). They conclude that while the Two
Peoples Bay birds are likely to be Western Whipbirds it remains presumption
until material can be examined.
Hope this helps

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Ewin 
Sent: Monday, 10 September 2001 9:53
Subject: Questions regarding WA

I have just got back to my e-mail so will answer the questions posed below. 
The Robin on Rottnest is starting to worry me, because it was too large to 
be a Red-capped (this was definite) and the call which was what attracted 
me, didn't sound right either.
Regarding the Western Whipbird it was seen on the track near Little Beach, 
near where Frank recommends for Noisy Scrub-bird. I did not expect to see 
the Whipbird, and it ended up being the first of the three seen. I had heard

them calling a couple of places, but never had any idea which direction they

were calling from - very difficult to track down. Went back to this track 
and was waiting for Scrub-bird when I heard something in the heath. It was 
virtually on the track, and it gave a 'gluck' call like the Eastern 
Whipbird. At no time did it give the song. It rummaged through the heath, 
before hoping briefly on a bush to look at me before completely 
disappearing. All three species came to look at me, rather than me seeing 
I heard Whipbirds on the Kanga trail (very late in the evening) and at 
Fitzgerald River crossing (though in the mallee right next to the bridge). I

was very close at the last spot, but the weather was abyssmal (wind and 
rain) and couldn't quite get there.

>From: Frank O'Connor <>
>To: "Peter Ewin" <>
>Subject: Re: [BIRDING-AUS] Questions regarding WA
>Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 15:29:37 +0800
>At 19:59 08/09/2001 +1000, Peter Ewin asked:
>>1. Are Hooded Robins found on Rottnest? I had a quick view of the back of
>>a Robin on the island as I rode past on a bike. I said Hooded at the time,
>>but subsequently only saw them elsewhere up near Overlander Roadhouse. Any
>>chance I was correct?
>It was a Red-capped Robin that you saw on Rottnest.
>>2. What is the Whipbird at Stirling Range and Fitzgerald River under the
>>Schodde and Mason taxonomy? I heard at both, but only saw a Whipbird at
>>Two Peoples Bay. This is definitely Western, but as far as I can tell the
>>other is Mallee. Any comments?
>It is a question I have been meaning to ask, so does anyone have the
>answer?  I don't have Schodde's book.  Also, Peter did you see any
>whipbirds and where?  I am showing a friend around in November and this is
>one of his target species.  I used to have a sure fire site at Fitzgerald
>River but they seem to have gone from there.
>>3. Are White-breasted Robins found at Nambung NP (the Pinnacles)? I had a
>>quick glimpse as it disappeared into scrub. Looked like this but seemed
>>wrong habitat.
>White-breasted is certainly possible in the heath and is most probably what
>you saw.
>>4. Has anyone confirmed Chestnut Quail-thrush at Meanarra Hill at
>>Kalbarri. I heard a thin high pitched call two nights in a row here, but
>>could not track down the bird.It sounded like Q-T or Black Honeyeater, but
>>was possibly Southern Scrub-Robin which were common at the site.
>I have also heard what sounded like a Chestnut Quail-thrush at this site
>but couldn't track it down. Certainly not a Black Honeyeater, but it could
>have been a Southern Scrub-robin, but not a call that I have heard from the
>SSR further south.
>Frank O'Connor      Birding WA
>8C Hardy Road                      Email : 
>Nedlands  WA  6009                       Phone : +61 8 9386 5694

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