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Birds, bats and Global Warming]

To: Kym Bennet <>
Subject: Birds, bats and Global Warming]
From: Peter Cheuwon <>
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:21:58 +1030
How dare you make flippant comments about the one thing that is dear to the 
hearts of
nearly all of us.  Our government car.

Any more of it and i will filter you into my junk box and then encrypt your 
remains
all over the web.

Kym Bennet wrote:
> 
> Kym Bennet wrote:
> 
> >  Did you know there is a quick and easy answer to turn around the threat
> >  of Global Warming?  If Governments initiated a  policy that said.
> >  "unless evidence shows that global warming is turning around by (say
> >  November 2001) all government cars will be exchanged for push bikes",
> >  it would be interesting to see what would happen next.
> > >
> >  At the completion of the next  emergency meeting of the United Nations
> >  Intergovernment Panel (May 2001) a statement could be expected to the
> >  effect of "Global Cooling is the new threat and as an emergency remedy
> >  the Intergovernment Panel recommends that large, faster cars be
> >  purchased on all new government contracts".
> >
> >  Lets not develop a siege mentality over every birds, bats or cannon
> > netting issue raised on this list.  The earth is a dynamic place and if
> > there was no change, we would have real cause to be concerned.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Kym
> 
> >
> >
> > > Mich Norris wrote
> > >
> > > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > This is not funny (and rather long).
> > > > >
> > > > > Today there was a posting from Steve Clark about Hamilton
> > > > > Botanical Gardens where he said "No Fruit-bats fortunately" and
> > > > > one from John Seagoon Gamblin with his diverting proposal for
> > > > > diverting duck hunters to the 17,000 flying foxes at the Royal
> > > > > Melbourne Botanic Gardens (RMBG).
> > > > >
> > > > > For those who don't know, the RMBG is about to kill grey-headed
> > > > > flying foxes (fruit bats) in the gardens after the Victorian
> > > > > Environment Minister REJECTED a recommendation from the relevant
> > > > > Scientific Advisory Committee that the species be listed as
> > > > > endangered under the Victorian Flora and Fauna Guarantee Act.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am very worried about the implications of a politician
> > > > > rejecting such advice because Wedge-tailed Eagles or whatever
> > > > > could be next if they are considered to be a nuisance ?  Surely
> > > > > - as in our recent Bustard conversations - we can recognise a
> > > > > species as endangered and do our best to manage what humans do
> > > > > about the species.
> > > > >
> > > > > Pretending the flying foxes are not endangered is just rubbish.
> > > > > Colonial species with huge numbers can vanish very quickly - the
> > > > > passenger pigeons used to blacken the sky over parts of the USA.
> > > > > There are now 2 or 3 left - in museums and truly stuffed.
> > > > >
> > > > > And why are the bats a problem for the RMBG - directed I am told
> > > > > by a former chief employee of the RAOU ? Because the RBMG's
> > > > > little bit of pseudo rainforest is being damaged by the bats
> > > > > which are probably there because of the introduction of Moreton
> > > > > Bay - and similar - fig trees, particularly to the RMBG and
> > > > > nearby parks as well as urban Melbourne, and the 1970s+ planting
> > > > > of eucalypts in urban areas and also because of ....??
> > > > >
> > > > > What worries me most about the RMBG line is that it is looking
> > > > > backwards and not forwards.  With global warming etc. (see the 3
> > > > > recent reports by the United Nations intergovernmental panel on
> > > > > climate change at http://www.ipcc.ch/ ) it is likely that more
> > > > > species will move south and, as they do, it will become even
> > > > > more important to adapt, using the best scientific knowledge we
> > > > > have, rather than to pretend it is not happening.
> > > > >
> > > > > With George "Dubya" Bush's promise yesterday not to rein-in
> > > > > polluting power stations things are going to get worse for
> > > > > longer. Which will - I think - delight both the major Australian
> > > > > political parties because it will mean a few more years of no
> > > > > hunger-belts for the whitefellas...
> > > > >
> > > > > During the last 2 months the Melbourne Museum has had 10 or so
> > > > > queries per day about strange insects.  These were native Blue
> > > > > flower wasps (Scolia soror) which have erupted all over
> > > > > Melbourne ...
> > > > >
> > > > > Global warming ?  Global warning ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Michael Norris
> > > > >
> > > > > PS. The Museum has just sacked some scientific/collections staff
> > > > > because ... ?   Perhaps glitzy front-of-house, pseudo tax
> > > > > collections are now seen as more important than our ignorance
> > > > > about many Australian taxa.  Yes we can spend more money on
> > > > > medical topics being researched all over the world, but spending
> > > > > it on what is unique to Australia ...
> > > > >
> > > > > PPS And if anyone has some practical suggestions about what to
> > > > > do, please let me know.
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