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Lyrebird renaming

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Subject: Lyrebird renaming
From: Ronald ORENSTEIN <>
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2023 00:45:00 -0400
As long as everyone is going whole hog on this may I  suggest that the Australian treecreepers, which are highly distinct birds, need a name of their own. How about ‘ladderbird’, given that Climacteris apparently means ‘little ladder’?

Ronald Orenstein 1825 Shady Creek Court Mississauga, ON L5L 3W2 Canada ronorenstein.blogspot.com
On Nov 5, 2023 at 1:36 AM -0400, Philip Veerman <>, wrote:

There are lots of examples. Another one is Jabiru. Yes it is the proper name for a South American stork and the name refers to a feature of that species. So its etymology does not apply to our Australian stork. But for reasons that I don’t know the name was carried across to our stork and still widely used. I think partly because Jabiru sure sounds like an Australian word (like kangaroo and it has a big jabbing beak, it is easy to say and sounds less formulaic). And from there it was given to a town and an airline. Is it wrong? It is still a related species, just as our species is related to the White Stork. Is the relationship closer than to the real Jabiru? Black-necked Stork aligns it to the European bird, is it more wrong to align it with a South American bird? I will call it Black-necked Stork.

 

Philip

 

From: Birding-Aus [ On Behalf Of Ross Macfarlane
Sent: Sunday, 5 November, 2023 2:35 PM
To: 'Chris King'; 'Geoff Ryan'
Cc: 'birding-aus'
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Lyrebird renaming

 

Very amusing of course, but given we are happy to name Western and Mallee Whipbirds that don’t, then a lyrebird with no lyre is probably not a deal broken.

 

Cheers,

Ross

 

From: Birding-Aus <> On Behalf Of Chris King
Sent: Sunday, November 5, 2023 10:06 AM
To: Geoff Ryan <>
Cc: birding-aus <>
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Lyrebird renaming

 

What about plumed muckraker? 

 

On Sun, 5 Nov 2023, 9:49 am Geoff Ryan, <> wrote:

I just wanted to get in first with - The Plumed Mulchscratcher aka the PM (for the Superb) and the Lesser Plumed Mulchscratcher aka LPM (for Prince Alberts). Thinking of renaming all Australian birds.

Geoff 

 

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