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Birding-Aus Digest, Vol 107, Issue 8

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Subject: Birding-Aus Digest, Vol 107, Issue 8
From: Karen Collard <>
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2022 08:58:03 +1000
I think somewhere along the way I heard that it’s teaching the chick in the egg 
to sing. This is why surrogate mother of are diff species are not good because 
they don’t teach the right song. 

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> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2022 08:15:21 +0930
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> To: Philip Veerman <>
> Cc: Peter Shute <>, Birding-aus NEW
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> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Magpies singing at night
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> This doesn't directly contribute but I did hear David singing at night at a
> campout once.  Omg what a croak it was.
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>> On Mon, 26 Sep 2022, 19:22 Philip Veerman, <> wrote:
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>> I recommend that the answer to all these style of questions is: ?because
>> their parents did?. In other words, it is something in their genetic makeup
>> and you can apply that, to most zoology questions of that style. It is
>> something that has been done and survived well in their evolutionary
>> history, giving some benefit. Indeed likely going back to whatever species
>> the magpie was, before it was the current species. Evidenced in that the
>> behaviour is something occurring in many birds, so is in the genetic makeup
>> of many birds. As to what is the adaptive advantage of them singing at
>> night now, well that is a different question and there are many possible
>> answers. But easy to simply suggest that it is territorial behaviour,
>> exactly as it is in the daytime (and why wouldn?t it be?), allowing the
>> magpie individuals to signal to neighbouring groups that they are in the
>> area, or whatever other message it sends. Sending vocal signals may well be
>> more effective at night, as there are normally less competing sounds around.
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>> Philip
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>> *From:* Birding-Aus  *On
>> Behalf Of *Peter Shute
>> *Sent:* Monday, 26 September, 2022 5:20 PM
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>> *Subject:* [Birding-Aus] Magpies singing at night
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>> I have been asked to post this question:
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>> 'I gave a talk at my local library on Bird Watching.  I was asked 'Why do
>> Magpies sing at night?'  I did not know.  Does anyone know?
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>> David Robertson
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>> Adelaide
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>> Peter Shute
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