It's the nesting sites
Where do they next in our Capital ! Has anyone checked the Parliament Houses
for these particular parasites. ?
Tree hollows would be limited in Canberra.
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> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 08:54:28 +1100
> From: "Geoffrey Dabb" <>
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> I was not going to say anything about this, but I do have something to
> report. As Martin says, the Canberra anti-IM/CM group has had considerable
> success in reducing the species around Canberra. Canberrans have moved on,
> and concurrently with this discussion have been talking about whether and how
> to reduce NOISY MINER numbers around Canberra. That species has increased
> dramatically in the suburbs, and the current spring has been particularly
> good for them.
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> What I have to report is the following. A few years ago Noisy Miners
> colonised a nearby suburban park. About three years ago, a pair of IMs
> disappeared from the park, where they had used a particular hollow. A case
> of being out-minered, I thought at the time. Just this morning, on the early
> dog-walk, I came across one of those flurries of bird interaction. A Noisy
> Miner was engaged in vigorous and sustained pursuit of an IM, one of two that
> had reappeared. Other Noisy Miners appeared and chased the pair of IMs from
> the park. If the latter do not reappear, I would take this as evidence that
> in some situations one species excludes the other.
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> What usually happens now is that someone says ?Oh no. Here in Lower Birdwell
> both species live together quite happily.?
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> From: Birding-Aus <> On Behalf Of Martin
> Butterfield
> Sent: Wednesday, 18 November 2020 11:43 AM
> To: Tony Russell <>
> Cc: Birding-Aus <>; Geoff Ryan
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> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Common Mynas
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> Dear Ancient Twitcher
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> The Canberra Indian Miyna Action Group has done an excellent job of stopping
> the increase of the pests in Canberra . However as another ancient twitcher
> said quite a few years ago "They'll never get rid of the Mynas until they get
> rid of the stables at Queanbeyan and Canberra race tracks."
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> Martin Butterfield
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> On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 10:56, Tony Russell <
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> All this debate about Mynas, common or Indian, is all very interesting but
> doesn't solve anything. They are HERE and there's no way to get rid of them.
> They are as common as sparrows and starlings, get used to them and live with
> it, just as we do with other introduced species. Sorry fellas, you are
> wasting your breath.
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>
> Ancient twitcher.
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> On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 08:27, <
> <> > wrote:
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> I could not agree more Geoff and, for the benefit of the birds, I am now
> embarking on a wide ranging policy of human genocide. Please join me.
>
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>
> While this policy may attract its critics, it is clearly the best approach to
> solving the current environmental problems, including those caused by
> introduced species.
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> Taking responsibility for human introduced species is, of course, silly. We
> should embrace their impact and pacify ourselves by staring guiltily at any
> available mirror.
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>
>
> Geoff, you have got me on a bad day. However what good is guilt and what
> solutions do you offer or are you seriously suggesting that we should just
> ignore introduced species?
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>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ken Cross
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> From: Birding-Aus <
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> Sent: Wednesday, 18 November 2020 6:11 AM
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> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Common Mynas
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> I am surprised that, on a birding site, some still use the misnomer of
> 'Indian Myna', for Acridotheres tristis. The accepted common name is 'Common
> Myna'. And the introduced bird is common up and down the east coast of
> Australia with varying densities. Populations also extend well inland in
> certain areas. No doubt it is aggressively successful and competes with
> native birds when it occurs in dense populations. However the Common Myna is
> not as widespread, or in such dense populations, as its close relative the
> Common Starling. Sturnus vulgaris which also competes with native wildlife.
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>
>
> In recent travels I have also noticed that populations of House Sparrows have
> spread into remote agricultural, pastoral and bush areas, well away from
> houses. All these introduced birds, including the Common Blackbird and the
> Spotted Dove, appear to be increasing their range and, presumably, their
> impact on native birds.
>
>
>
> However, before we get sanctimonious and judgemental about these birds we
> should consider, carefully, what we could do about the one species that is
> far more destructive, widespread and invasive than all these and the major
> cause for the reduction of our native bird populations and species. It is the
> species we see when we look in the mirror.
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> Perhaps we should accept the blame and not deflect our guilt onto introduced
> bird populations.
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>
>
> Geoff
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