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Birding-Aus Digest, Vol 85, Issue 10

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Subject: Birding-Aus Digest, Vol 85, Issue 10
From: Michael Hunter <>
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 09:02:18 +1100
Playing with pussies.

Stephen's reference on cats seemed more directed to one's own pet pussy  rather 
than to the problem of  general  protection of wildlife, (as outlines in the 
reference, an eye watering problem) from feral or uncontrolled domestic moggies.

Here in Mulgoa we have largely eliminated them by using possum traps, most 
successfully baited with commercial cat food, which is so good that I suspect 
that it contains pheromones.   Our friendly vet euthanises them with a simple 
almost instantly fatal injection of some description.

However, it is a continuous process, a trap is kept permanently set, and over 
the past six months no cats caught. Just the occasional cheeky Magpie, one of 
which, named  "Violin"  after the pattern on its. wings  and back, and  he/she 
kept returning until the trap was relocated beyond their ken.

As an aside, other than by behaviour, can Australian Magpies be sexed on 
appearance.?

          Cheers

                Michael 

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> There is good evidence that both domestic and feral cats have a serious
> adverse impact on avifauna.
> 
> Birds Queensland has produced a brochure that encourages people to better
> manage their cats.
> 
> This brochure may be found and downloaded here:
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> https://birdsqueensland.org.au/cat_safety_brochure.php
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> Please download and use wisely. We feel that it is important not to be seen
> as anti-cat but to persuade people, Councils and State Governments to move
> towards improved cat management. Aggressive anti-cat positions are
> polarising and will achieve nothing.
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> Cheers
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> Stephen
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> Dr Stephen Prowse
> Research Translation Consultant
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> From: Rod Warnock <>
> To: Michael Hunter <>
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> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Indian Mynah control
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> When I arrived in Kilaben Road ,Kilaben Bay on Lake MacQuarie 40 years ago
> I was plagued with Indian Mynas.
> I planted Grevilleas and Bottlebrushes and in came Noisy Miners after the
> above native plantings within 12 months the Indian Mynas vanished. No
> baiting etc they simply vanished. All I planted were as above.
> Best regards
> Rod Warnock PhD AFIAP
> Nature: The Cathedral of Awe !!
> Rod Warnock Bird and Wildlife Photography
> http://www.rodwarnockphotography.com
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> On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 2:41 PM Michael Hunter <>
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>> Indian Mynahs are a pestilence on much of Sydney's suburbia.
>> 
>> They can be virtually totally eliminated by blocking  their nesting
>> cavities, which are invariably under the eaves of houses, often via gutters.
>> 
>> Trapping and wringing their necks ("euthanising") is never ending,
>> stopping them from breeding is permanent.
>> 
>> In Suburbia it would be a big deal for all houses to block off, but should
>> be a program instituted by all the relevant Councils.
>> 
>> Education pamphlets distributed to all households, possibly the provision
>> of mobile teams of ladder men with a supply of old ("nylon") socks or wire
>> netting would get completely rid of these "flying rats".
>> 
>> Hopefully  the return of many small native bird spp. to suitable areas
>> would follow. Particularly areas without uncontrolled cat populations .
>> 
>> I can personally vouch for this. The only Indian Mynah nest in a tree
>> cavity that I have seen was short lived thanks to either goannas or other
>> hole nesting birds . Not applicable in most of infested Suburbia.
>> 
>>              Yours Very Sincerely
>> 
>>                  Michael Hunter.
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> From: "Penny Brockman" <>
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> I have no mynas except in summer occasional visiting pair that nest in nearby 
> old red gum. Garden has almost no grass, thickly planted natives.  Noisy 
> miners are common southern end town around parks, sales yard, hospital and 
> high school. And nearby river flats with cattle and crops. Lots dodgy house 
> roofs and old gums for nest sites.  However in 18 years residence myna 
> numbers are going up. Nobody cares enough to trap consistently and I?m too 
> old and increpit to manage such a program as well as problem of disposal. 
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> Like all problems with weeds it?s only when the infestation gets enormous and 
> starts causing economic problems that anybody takes action. 
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>> On Tue, 17 Nov 2020, at 2:27 PM, Rod Warnock wrote:
>> When I arrived in Kilaben Road ,Kilaben Bay on Lake MacQuarie 40 years ago I 
>> was plagued with Indian Mynas.
>> I planted Grevilleas and Bottlebrushes and in came Noisy Miners after the 
>> above native plantings within 12 months the Indian Mynas vanished. No 
>> baiting etc they simply vanished. All I planted were as above.
>> Best regards
>> Rod Warnock PhD AFIAP
>> Nature: The Cathedral of Awe !!
>> Rod Warnock Bird and Wildlife Photography    
>> http://www.rodwarnockphotography.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 2:41 PM Michael Hunter <> 
>>> wrote:
>>> Indian Mynahs are a pestilence on much of Sydney's suburbia.
>>> 
>>> They can be virtually totally eliminated by blocking  their nesting 
>>> cavities, which are invariably under the eaves of houses, often via gutters.
>>> 
>>> Trapping and wringing their necks ("euthanising") is never ending, stopping 
>>> them from breeding is permanent.
>>> 
>>> In Suburbia it would be a big deal for all houses to block off, but should 
>>> be a program instituted by all the relevant Councils.  
>>> 
>>> Education pamphlets distributed to all households, possibly the provision 
>>> of mobile teams of ladder men with a supply of old ("nylon") socks or wire 
>>> netting would get completely rid of these "flying rats".
>>> 
>>> Hopefully  the return of many small native bird spp. to suitable areas 
>>> would follow. Particularly areas without uncontrolled cat populations .
>>> 
>>> I can personally vouch for this. The only Indian Mynah nest in a tree 
>>> cavity that I have seen was short lived thanks to either goannas or other 
>>> hole nesting birds . Not applicable in most of infested Suburbia.
>>> 
>>>              Yours Very Sincerely
>>> 
>>>                  Michael Hunter.
>>> 
>>> 
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