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Range of Weebill

To: "'Allan Richardson'" <>, "'Patrick Scully'" <>
Subject: Range of Weebill
From: "Mike Carter" <>
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 17:34:36 +1000
Allan, Spiny-cheeked Honeyeater would be regular there in winter, say from 
mid-March to September. But we believe that the birds that spend the winter in 
these areas come from further south, the coastal areas of the Mornington 
Peninsula, rather than inland. 

Mike Carter, 03 5977 1262
181/160 Mornington-Tyabb Road
Mornington, VIC 3931, Australia  

-----Original Message-----
From: Allan Richardson  
Sent: 16 April 2018 3:23 PM
To: Patrick Scully
Cc: Mike Carter; Andrew Silcocks; 
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Range of Weebill

It’s a fair bit further north than Balnarring Patrick, but I had a Weebill at 
Bowen Parkway, Waterways on January 30 this year.

It surprised me a bit, because we don’t get them that close to the coast in my 
neck of the woods in NSW. I picked it up by call and then photographed it to 
make sure I wasn’t dreaming. There was no doubt about it’s identity.

The following day I had a Diamond Dove at the same site, which I took be an 
escapee, and inquiries backed up my hunch as the most likely explanation. I 
mentioned seeing the Weebill and no-one batted an eyelid, so assumed it was 
normal. The photo was no oil-painting and since the sighting appeared to be run 
of the mill I ditched it…. 

On subsequent visits I’ve had Spiny-cheeked Honeyeaters at the same general 
location as well, which suggests there is a somewhat inland influence 
persistent in that neck of the woods, although I’m not sure if Spiny-cheeked 
Honeyeater isn’t a well known suspect locally.

Kind regards,

Allan

> On 15 Apr 2018, at 5:37 pm, Patrick Scully <> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> And thanks Mike.  I had thought that if anyone knew about Weebill on the
> Mornington Peninsula, who would know better than yourself.  My wife's aunt
> is the Anglican Vicar at Balnarring and said that when she moved there in
> 2007, that she had Weebill in the garden but then a family of Butcher Birds
> moved in and that was the end of them. She has a field guide but is not
> what I would call a birder, in the sense of seeking out birds and I'm not
> sure that she even owns any binoculars.  When I suggested that they may
> have been Thornbills, and described Weebill as having a white eye, she
> mentioned seeing the white eye.  After reading your email, I wonder if she
> may have been seeing Buff-rumped Thornbill.
> Would you know if they are more common on the Mornington Peninsula Mike?
> All the best,
> Patrick Scully
> 
> 
> On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 1:23 PM, Mike Carter <> wrote:
> 
>> Regarding the status of Weebill on the Mornington Peninsula in my time
>> here since 1964 it has never been common or widespread. Several decades ago
>> I saw them around Devils Bend Reservoir but I don't think they are there
>> now. I also seem to recall seeing the species at least once at the
>> Langwarrin Reserve. The booklet 'Where to Find Birds around Frankston and
>> the Mornington Peninsula' edited by Larry Wakefield published by the
>> Mornington Peninsula Branch of the Bird Observers Club in 2006 listed it as
>> a vagrant. There is only one record for the Edithvale - Seaford Wetlands; a
>> bird photographed at Seaford within the last 5 years by Andrew Silcocks. We
>> have never seen it at the Eastern Treatment Plant but there is little
>> suitable habitat for it there. I am not particularly familiar with the
>> Balnarring region but would be surprised if it was regular there.
>> 
>> Mike Carter, 03 5977 1262
>> 181/160 Mornington-Tyabb Road
>> Mornington, VIC 3931, Australia
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Birding-Aus  On Behalf
>> Of Patrick Scully
>> Sent: 14 April 2018 7:49 PM
>> To: 
>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Range of Weebill
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> I posted a photo that Kevin Bartram took at Kamarooka of a Weebill  on my
>> Facebook page and my wife’s aunt made a comment that she used to have them
>> in her garden at Balnarring, on the Mornington Peninsula. I know that the
>> Weebill is found over pretty much all of mainland Australia. Would anyone
>> know if they can be seen on the Mornington Peninsula? The other thing I’m
>> wondering about is the exact place that the Brevirostris race finishes and
>> the lovely more yellow Flavescens race starts? I’ve looked at both the
>> Morcombe app and Pizzey app maps and to me it is a little unclear.
>> 
>> Ken Haines and I had an enjoyable time last September seeing Flavescens at
>> Mica Creek, Mt Isa.
>> Happy birding,
>> Patrick Scully
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