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Taxonomical Anarchy Hampers Conservation

To: Philip Veerman <>, 'Birding Aus' <>
Subject: Taxonomical Anarchy Hampers Conservation
From: Helen Larson <>
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2017 01:49:29 +0000
aha yes Philip,

us taxonomists want a TARDIS so we can see what is really going on with all 
these organisms. The last thing we need is another layer of time- and 
money-wasting bureaucracy.

Helen


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From: Birding-Aus <> on behalf of Philip 
Veerman <>
Sent: Friday, 2 June 2017 12:02:05 AM
To: 'Birding Aus'
Subject: Taxonomical Anarchy Hampers Conservation

I suspect it is not the "change over time" that is the issue, because that 
scale of time is longer than the scope of current bureaucratic issues. However 
that the change occurs over time but that we are at a particular point in time, 
so that it is obvious that at any one point in time there will be some species 
that are in a stable state and easily defined, especially if no other close 
relatives still exist (think for example of the platypus), whereas other 
species will be at a stage of variation at which it is hard to set dividing 
lines as to the boundaries of particular species.

Philip

-----Original Message-----
From: Birding-Aus  On Behalf Of 
Dave Torr
Sent: Thursday, 1 June, 2017 6:00 PM
To: L&L Knight
Cc: birding-aus
Subject: Taxonomical Anarchy Hampers Conservation

If one accepts evolution then surely the corollary is that species change
over time. Else there would probably only be one species of bird
Or am I missing something?

On 1 Jun 2017 17:58, "Laurie Knight" <> wrote:

> Steve Garnett and Les Christidis say
>
> "The assumption that species are fixed entities1 underpins every
> international agreement on biodiversity conservation, all national
> environmental legislation and the efforts of many individuals and
> organizations to safeguard plants and animals. Yet for a discipline aiming
> to impose order on the natural world, taxonomy (the classification of
> complex organisms) is remarkably anarchic.”
>
> See today’s edition of Nature: http://www.nature.com/news/
> taxonomy-anarchy-hampers-conservation-1.22064


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