Hi Noel,
We list all subspecies, but not the intergrades as they are not “taxonomic”
units per say, but we have a list of all hybrid zones and all are mapped (from
the work of Schodde and Mason and more recent world). The Birdata system will
use these layers and do the subspecies classification in the background in most
cases, but it will offer users choice of specifying a subspecies If they want
to, where >1 subspecies occurs - but only the subspecies which co-occur in the
exact location will be offered as choices and this will always be optional and
un-intrusive.
Probably far more detail that you want… but FYI there are 553 combinations of
terrestrial subspecies intragrades in Australia currently the vast majority of
which are “2-way” zones, but can be up to 5-way (Varied Sitella in central Qld).
Of course actual subspecies hybrids can probably be identified?, but I suspect
very rarely so, and are a level probably well beyond the interest of anyone in
the field?
Cheers,
Glenn
On 5 Oct 2015, at 3:36 pm, Noel Luff
<<>> wrote:
This all very well having a name for each sub-species. I was wondering how the
list handles intergrades between the sub-species, presumably one refers to the
species name only.
On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Glenn Ehmke
<<>> wrote:
Hi James,
Great to hear discussion around subspecies on Birding-Aus!
BirdLife Australia offers a comprehensive list of all Australian subspecies
through the Working List of Australian Birds (WALB). This list is build on
decades of research by many taxonomists and conservation researchers. It
includes taxonomic notes as well as conservation classifications for all
species and subspecies. The current version is available below - although an
update of this (with quite a lot of changes to subspecies and species arising
from recent research and recent additions to the Australian list from the
rarities committee) will be out before years end. There is also a short section
on subspecies on the below webpage. Classifications for IOC, C&B and Clements
are also included if your that way inclined.
www.birdlife.org.au/taxonomy<http://www.birdlife.org.au/taxonomy>
We have recently implemented proper vernacular names for all subspecies (a
peer-reviewed paper is currently in review outlining this process), extending
the critical work of the English Names Committee who have worked tirelessly for
30 years to provide our birds with the sensible identities that have been so
important to all conservation efforts.
We will also be offering functionality for birders to record subspecies detail
in the new version of Birdata (which will be released within the next 6 months)
as many people have called for this for quite a long time. This is an important
as we have often lacked critical information on threatened subspecies in
particular in the past and of course BirdLife Australia’s position is that all
subspecies are equal to species in terms of conservation value.
The Birdata system will usually attribute subspecies detail based on survey
coordinates automatically and will only offer manual subspecies selections
where subspecies co-occur to keep the data entry burden low.
Cheers,
Glenn
Hi all,
Regarding subspecies, does anyone have (or known of) a list or some detail
info the different subspecies across the country? I began copying and
picking out all the information from the IOC document including all the
birds of the world and then thought there must be an easier way!
Thought I better get on and start that subspecies list for future ticks (or
lumps I guess)
All the best,
James Mustafa
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