Piping Shrike is South Aus emblemic bird

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Subject: Piping Shrike is South Aus emblemic bird
From: Philip Veerman <>
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 05:42:15 +0000
Names of things like animals are a huge slowly moving feast of entrenched
errors and wrong connections. In the end they mean what we choose. Ground
Butcherbird probably makes sense by virtue of real affinities but how many
Australian people, let alone Collingwood football fans are going to make the
change from Magpie? The name of penguin is based on the Great Auk........
wombats are often called badgers, koalas are called bears, lyrebirds are
called pheasants, our magpies are given the same magpie name as the very
different magpie of Eurasia, etc. Although I don't see what is wrong with
the name it commemorates the black & white scheme..............

-----Original Message-----
From: Birding-Aus  On Behalf Of
Greg and Val Clancy
Sent: Friday, 14 August 2015 1:10 PM
To: Denise Goodfellow
Cc: birding-aus
Subject: Piping Shrike is South Aus emblemic bird

Hi Denise,

What do you suggest as the new name for the bandicoots?


From: Denise Goodfellow
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 12:51 PM
To: Greg
Cc: Doug Holly ; birding-aus
Subject: Piping Shrike is South Aus emblemic bird

I’m waiting for ‘bandicoot’ (originally the name of an Indian rodent) to

Denise Lawungkurr  Goodfellow
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On 14 Aug 2015, at 11:37 am, Greg and Val Clancy <> wrote:

  When I correct a birding friend of mine who is hell bent on referring to
our Black-necked (Satin) Stork as a Jabiru (a South American stork) he
responds by saying well the Australian Magpie is not a real magpie, and I
agree with him.  We changed 'warbler' to 'Gerygone' and there have been
other changes so I propose that, since the Australian Magpie is now in the
genus Cracticus with the butcherbirds, that we change its name to 'Ground
Butcherbird'.   I am now entering my air raid bunker and securely locking
the hatch!!!!

  Dr Greg. P. Clancy
  Ecologist and Birding-wildlife  Guide
  | PO Box 63 Coutts Crossing NSW 2460
  | 02 6649 3153 | 0429 601  960

  -----Original Message----- From: Doug Holly
  Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 8:56 AM
  To: Birding Aus
  Subject: [Birding-Aus] Piping Shrike is South Aus emblemic bird

  There has always been confusion over this name because Piping Shrike was
  used as the name of the White-backed Magpie when the South Aust
  was written.

  Identification of the birdEdit

  Because the name piping shrike is not used to identify any bird, there has
  been some confusion over what bird it represents. While some think it
  resembles the Murray magpie <>
  (Grallina cyanoleuca), the original reports specify that it is based on
  Australian magpie <> ,
  and government sources specify the subspecies as the white-backed magpie
  (Cracticus tibicen telonocua formerly Gymnorhina tibicen leuconota).
  <> [4] The
  connection of this bird to the name piping shrike can be seen in this
  observation by explorer Charles Sturt
  <>  in the 1840s:

  "GYMNORHINA LEUCONOTA GOULD., The White-backed Crow Shrike. This bird is
  somewhat larger than, and very much resembles a magpie, but the proportion
  of white is greater, and there is no metallic or varied tint on the black
  feathers as on the European bird. In South Australia it is a winter bird,
  and his clear fine note was always the most heard on the coldest morning,
  if that temperature best suited him. All the species of this genus are
  easily domesticated, and learn to pipe tunes. They are mischievous birds
  about a house, but are useful in a garden. I had one that ranged the
  to a great distance round the house, but always returned to sleep in it."

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