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Leave the Twitchers (was Night Parrot) alone :-)

To: Frank O'Connor <>
Subject: Leave the Twitchers (was Night Parrot) alone :-)
From: Alistair McKeough <>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 19:42:53 +0000
Frank

I hope you realise that myself being both a twitcher and a photographer my
tongue was firmly in cheek when I set forth the "satanic scale"!

Alistair

On Wednesday, August 12, 2015, Frank O'Connor <> wrote:

>    (Probably time to change the subject heading ......? as this no longer
>    has anything to do with Night Parrots ...)
>    Tony Russell wrote : (referring to irresponsible birders / maybe
>    twitchers)
> >Oh yes, and to our exclusion from Price Saltfield and the
> difficulty of
> >accessing Alice Springs, Mt Isa, Broome and most other sewage ponds
> Not to
> >mention the access restrictions placed on other Evaporation areas
> around the
> >country
>
>
>    I think that Tony has got it wrong about Broome, and perhaps the
>    others? ...
>    In the old days (early 1990s), there was only official access to the
>    Broome sewage works from outside the fence. However, if people were
>    working there, you could usually ask if you could come inside the
>    fence, and permission was usually granted.  However, there weren't the
>    high bunds that are now there, so with a scope it was relatively easy
>    to scan all the ponds from outside the fence, and especially the
>    overflow section at the back.  A few locals were given keys to the
>    gate.
>    The change to access seemed to coincide with the concern about public
>    liability. My understanding is that this is when keys were no longer
>    given out. Then over the years the ponds expanded as Broome rapidly
>    expanded, and it became more difficult to see many of the ponds.  I
>    have never heard it mentioned that birders, and especially
>    'irresponsible' birders or twitchers had anything to do with the
>    restrictions.
>    There is still a track around the outside fence, and by standing on top
>    of your vehicle (e.g. the tray of a ute) you can still see the better
>    ponds.
>    I believe that access to the Derby sewage ponds has a similar history.
>    There are tracks outside the fence (at least the last time I was there
>    about 5 years or so ago), and you can still walk around the overflow
>    area out near the mudflats.  They did build a viewing platform for the
>    main ponds, but I understand that this has now been removed, from my
>    understanding because it was getting old and risked breaking, and
>    because of public liability it was easier to remove it rather than
>    repair it.
>    There was a case at the Kununurra sewage ponds about 15 years ago.
>    Birds Australia WA (as known at the time) with me as the author
>    published a Birding Sites around Kununurra brochure, nominating the
>    ponds as an excellent site to visit. Someone tied a chain to the gates
>    and the back of their vehicle and pulled the gates down!  This was
>    blamed on 'birders' and because of the brochure. There was never any
>    evidence of this, and I would be totally staggered if a birder did
>    this.  You can easily see the ponds from outside the fence.
>    In Western Australia, it is quite difficult to access many of the
>    lighthouses in the south west which tend to be good seawatching sites.
>    Again, I believe this is due to public liability concerns rather than
>    'irresponsible' birders, and definitely nothing to do with twitchers.
>    Yes. I understand that people (mainly birders?) doing the wrong thing
>    is the reason given for being denied access to the Price Saltfield near
>    Adelaide, and Koonchera Sand Dunes / Goyder's Lagoon on the Birdsville
>    Track.  But not by being 'irresponsible' birders or twitchers, but by
>    being bad drivers and getting bogged necessitating the locals having to
>    rescue them, and the locals getting fed up with this.  And I have heard
>    the details of people (yes probably birders but were they twitchers?)
>    trespassing to see the Red Goshawk at Mataranka.  And the group who
>    visited the Princess Parrots a few years ago without getting the entry
>    permit (but I heard that this group - or one of the groups - was an
>    overseas bird tour company and not Australian 'twitchers').
>    I am a twitcher. Number 6 in Australia I think.  I think of all the
>    twitches that I have done. Black-headed Gull / Blue & White Flycatcher
>    / Semipalmated Plover / Franklin's Gull / Red-throated Pipit, Rosy
>    Starling / Lesser Black-backed Gull / Chinese Pond Heron / Red-rumped
>    Swallow / Tricolored Grebe (all Broome), Fairy Pitta (Derby),
>    Red-legged Crake (Whim Creek), Black-tailed Gull (Geraldton), Eurasian
>    Wigeon (Carnarvon), Northern Pintail (Mandurah), Javan Pond Heron /
>    Tricolored Grebe (Darwin), Laughing Gull / Slaty-backed Gull (Cairns /
>    Cooktown), American Golden Plover (Sydney),  Stilt Sandpiper / Northern
>    Shoveler (Werribee), Hudsonian Godwit (Price Saltfields), Forest
>    Wagtail (Alice Springs), Cape Gannet (Portland), Red-billed Tropicbird
>    (Lord Howe), Lesser Yellowlegs (Northern NSW), South Island Pied
>    Oystercatcher (Ballina).  The only bird I can remember flying
>    specifically because of my presence was the Chinese Pond Heron and
>    probably the South Island Pied Oystercatcher, and the Northern Pintail
>    swam behind reeds.  The crake walked 6 inches past my foot!  Too close
>    to photograph. The RR Swallow flew over my head as I stood there. The
>    Forest Wagtail walked two metres in front of me. The AG Plover and JP
>    Heron landed less than 10 metres in front of me. Then there are all the
>    birds on Cocos & Christmas Islands. Yes birds flush there, but they
>    would do anyway as people walk past the trees or drive / walk along the
>    roads. Twitchers are a very valuable source of income for these
>    islands.  Twitching is mostly about finding a good site to view from
>    and being patient waiting for the bird to show.  On Ashmore Reef we
>    have walked through the grass and around the pisonia trees and some
>    birds do flush, but that is the last thing you want.  You aim to get a
>    good view of the bird. If it flushes you don't see what it is.
>    So like Kevin, Tony P and others I get very offended when 'twitchers'
>    always seem to be lumped in with 'irresponsible' birders. 9/10 on the
>    'Satanic' scale!!! by one ignorant person (just behind poachers). I am
>    sorry, but the general public are usually the worst offenders. Feeding
>    bread to ducks, driving on beaches, letting their dogs chase the gulls
>    and other birds ('they are only gulls so what is the problem? .....'),
>    destroying sand dunes with their 4WDs, disturbing nests, bush bashing,
>    ....  General birders are far worse than twitchers because they are
>    always on the move and disturb many more birds.
>
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>    Frank O'Connor                          Birding WA
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