The dangers of (British) gulls..

To: Dave Torr <>, Carl Clifford <>
Subject: The dangers of (British) gulls..
From: "" <>
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 03:11:52 +0000
Stayed at home and cooked.... :-)

There was probably more fish before the advent of fish shops also.


Yours in all things "green"

John Harris BASc, GDipEd
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From: "Dave Torr" <>
To: "Carl Clifford" <>
Cc: "birding-aus" <>
Subject: The dangers of (British) gulls..
Date: Sun, Aug 2, 2015 10:57

I wonder what gulls did before the advent of fast food shops?

On 2 August 2015 at 10:49, Carl Clifford <> wrote:

> I sent a report on that gull misbehaviour to a birder friend in Cornwall.
> His reply was, that if all those f****g tourists didn't go around dropping
> the remnants of their fish & chips and pasties everywhere, and even feeding
> the buggers, there would not be a problem. It seems that it is a human
> caused problem. Also, my chum says, ¾ of the stories are bunk.
> Carl Clifford
> > On 2 Aug 2015, at 8:48 am, Dave Torr <> wrote:
> >
> > From the "World Wide Words" newsletter:
> >
> > Reports in British newspapers these past few days have featured the
> menace
> > from seagulls, particularly in Cornwall. Earlier this month a dog was
> killed
> > <>
> > by a seagull in that county and a tortoise died
> > <> after being
> > flipped over and pecked to death. The birds are brazen in grabbing food
> > from visitors and in doing so have caused injuries. Young people have
> taken
> > advantage by inventing a game called *gull running*. It’s said to have
> > started in Whitby but has since spread to other seaside towns. One person
> > holds food above their head — usually fish and chips — and runs a set
> > course. The winner is whoever can run the furthest without a seagull
> > grabbing the food.
> >
> > One correspondent to my newspaper was less concerned about the physical
> > injuries the birds can cause than about the purity of language. There are
> > no such things as seagulls, he argued. In the UK there are herring, great
> > black-backed, lesser black-backed, black-headed and common gulls and the
> > kittiwake, but something called a seagull doesn’t exist. A touch
> pedantic,
> > perhaps? We may be sure it won’t change his view to be told that English
> > has had *seagull* as a popular collective term since medieval times.
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