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Leaving Only Footsteps? Think Again

To: Peter Shute <>
Subject: Leaving Only Footsteps? Think Again
From: Carl Clifford <>
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 21:12:06 +1100
Downhill skiers would certainly upset wildlife, due to their speed, suddenly 
appearing out of nowhere. Langlaufers would probably be less of a problem, due 
to their slower speed and the degree of grunting and wheezing involved.

Carl Clifford


> On 17 Feb 2015, at 8:53 pm, Peter Shute <> wrote:
> 
> Good point, although it was skiers, not walkers, they were compared to. They 
> might be much quieter, and a lot faster. As for the snowmobiles, I assume 
> they're talking about those going from A to B, not those zooming around 
> aimlessly. I can't imagine many animals putting up with that.
> 
> Peter Shute
> 
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> On 17 Feb 2015, at 7:25 pm, Martin Butterfield 
> <<>> wrote:
> 
> I wonder who sponsored the research that showed snowmobiles were not much of 
> an issue?  My nominations would be some entity associated with snowmobiles.  
> I have never ridden one of these appalling devices but have come across moose 
> several times while walking in Canada and the U.S.  They paid no attention to 
> the humans at all but simply carried on grazing or wading as they appeared to 
> be doing before we arrived.
> 
> I tend to be very suspicious of such research that seems to show access by 
> park people is OK but us mere mortals have to be kept out.
> 
> Martin
> 
> On Tuesday, 17 February 2015, Peter Shute 
> <<>> wrote:
> This article from the New York Times discusses the effects of recreation on 
> nature. Surprisingly, one study found that snowmobiles had less effect on 
> moose than cross country skiers - the animals were less afraid of the 
> machines they could hear coming and which soon left, than the skiers who they 
> couldn't hear as well and which stayed longer.
> 
> Not a very Australian example, but it makes you wonder if we birders might 
> have more effect than we think, wandering slowly and quietly through the bush 
> looking at stuff.
> 
> http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/15/opinion/sunday/leaving-only-footsteps-think-again.html<http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/15/opinion/sunday/leaving-only-footsteps-think-again.html?smid=nytcore-ipad-share&smprod=nytcore-ipad&_r=1>
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> Peter Shute
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