Reply Pieter de Groot Boersma regarding Yandina Wetlands

To: "'Greg Roberts'" <>, "'birding-aus'" <>
Subject: Reply Pieter de Groot Boersma regarding Yandina Wetlands
From: "Ken Cross" <>
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 06:40:57 +1000
Hi all,

Not that Greg needs my help in expression I'd like to add my support to his 

It is easy to accept an apology when you are miles and miles away from the 
trespass that occurred. It is easy to accept an apology when you cannot clearly 
understand the importance of the land in our local context. It is easy to 
accept an apology if this was an  innocent error - it was not.

It is not a good message when you 'knowingly' ignore local advice, break a law 
and then believe that mouthing 'sorry' will bring you national support and 

I'm sorry this happened. I'm sorry Greg has lost some standing with the land 
owners. I'm sorry that we can now not take part in a survey. I'm sorry that the 
land may never be purchased by the Council for conservation. I'm sorry that 
Peter can leave and put it all behind him and continue to wonder what all the 
fuss was about.

I'm sorry  - I'm angry!

Love and Seasons greetings to all,
Ken Cross 

-----Original Message-----
From: Birding-Aus  On Behalf Of 
Greg Roberts
Sent: Wednesday, 10 December 2014 6:12 AM
To: birding-aus
Cc: tom tarrant
Subject: Reply Pieter de Groot Boersma regarding Yandina Wetlands

Let's get some perspective indeed Tom.
You are very good at lecturing people about environmental awareness (as you 
evidently are about the sins of ticking House Crows) but some of  us are out 
there on the frontline working to save important areas. When those efforts are 
undermined by the irresponsible behaviour of visiting birders, that is no small 
I welcome Pieter's apology, but those who are quick to forgive and forget are 
overlooking the fact that Pieter was told on at least three occasions - by me 
and others - that he should not go onto the property. He ignored us, and then 
exacerbated the problem when he was caught trespassing by falsely telling the 
land owners effectively that the person leading the campaign to protect 
wetlands on their property
(me) was commercially exploiting them by leading bird tours there. I think it's 
a bit of a worry when people like you, who should know better, dismiss this 
sort of stuff as trivia. Greg Roberts

        "Recently a lot of fuss was made regarding the trespass on private-land 
by a visiting birder and while I agree that it was the wrong thing to do the 
person in question has since apologized for his actions. I wonder if birders 
were aware of this headline and plan to do something about it: *Queensland 
Deputy Premier Jeff Seeney has intervened to force the removal of all 
references to climate change-derived sea level rises from the regional plan of 
Moreton Bay Regional Council.* Apathy will probably result in Yandina Wetlands 
becoming part of the sea-bed in the foreseeable-future*. *I would remind you as 
a fellow-birder that the right-wing governments that currently 'run' this 
country regard you as a "Greeny", and therefore.......the enemy. Let's get some 
perspective, Tom"
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