Angus,
The checklist is certainly a much more economical alternative to HBW. I did not
buy it, as the extra weight, added to the rest of my birding books, would
likely cause a catastrophic failure of my floor joists.
Carl Clifford
> On 8 Dec 2014, at 10:19 pm, Innes, Angus
> <> wrote:
>
> Carl,
> I didn't buy the Handbook, so the illustrations and distribution maps are of
> interest to me as a bonus to one book where I can record my tick.
> I accept the economic argument for the list simpliciter.
>
> Angus.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carl Clifford
> Sent: 08 December 2014 10:47
> To: Innes, Angus
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] FW: HBW/Birdlife International Illustrated
> Checklist adopted by UN Convention
>
> It is a lot of money for two books that will be partially out of date by the
> time they are printed. I think I will stick to the IOC list. Much more
> portable and better priced, as well as being constantly updated.
>
> Carl Clifford
>
>
>> On 8 Dec 2014, at 7:50 pm, Innes, Angus
>> <> wrote:
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: <>
>> To: <>
>> Subject: HBW/Birdlife International Illustrated Checklist adopted by UN
>> Convention
>> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 08:13:03 +0000
>>
>>
>> Classification lists are a subject of endless fascination for quite a few
>> Birding Aus correspondents - mine waxes and wanes. International travel
>> birding lists and information probably attract even more space. Having those
>> groups particularly in mind, I thought the following may be of interest, as
>> well as to others who may share my inclination to use a credible hard copy
>> list that will not disappear on computer melt down.
>>
>> It is reported that during the eleventh meeting of the Council of the
>> Conference of the parties to the UN Convention on the Conservation of
>> Migratory Species of Wild Animals (CMS) the HBW and Birdlife International
>> Illustrated Checklist of the Birds of the World, vol 1 - Non-passerines,
>> published June 2014 by Lynx publications (Barcelona), was adopted as the
>> Convention's standard reference for bird taxonomy and nomenclature for
>> non-passerines. The resolution adopting the Checklist also requested the
>> Council of the Convention to consider adopting the second volume on
>> Passerines for similar purposes when published in 2016.
>>
>> A reviewer of the first volume, Alan Knox, in the venerable and prestigious
>> UK Birding magazine, "British Birds", (November 2014) wrote "Having a full
>> checklist of all the non-passerine species and subspecies together with
>> illustrations and maps in one remarkable volume, simply cannot be beaten."
>> For the record breakers and splitters, he comments elsewhere in the article
>> "While the authority of the text, the quality of the plates and revised
>> distribution mapping for every species are more than enough to establish
>> this as an exceptional volume, it is the authors approach to species-level
>> taxonomy that they believe is the most distinctive feature of the book....
>> In a massive exercise , the authors have carried out a massive sweep using
>> new criteria , adding a total of 462 species since HBW, about half of which
>> were proposed by other authors after the publication of the relevant volumes
>> (of HBW). The criteria used here were published by Tobias et al (Ibis
>> 152:724-746) and they are carefully explained in the introduction"
>>
>> He does go on to qualify the "great service (done by the authors) in their
>> review of species" by instancing some species anomalies which he states
>> "serves to show that no known system can definitively identify which taxa
>> deserve to be treated as a species."
>>
>> The checklist is currently on offer from the publishers for 145 euros - with
>> an offer of Vol 2 at the same price (to be paid on publication of Vol 2 in
>> 2016) if a commitment to purchase is made now. The general sale price
>> appears to be around 185 euros. As I understand it, it distils much of its
>> key information from the volumes of HBW.
>>
>> I do not have the knowledge to engage in any debate on the science behind
>> the list adopted. I merely offer this information for the benefit of others
>> who find themselves in my position. Yes, I am getting one.
>>
>> Angus Innes.
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