Dutch Birder Throws Spanner in Conservation Campaign Works

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Subject: Dutch Birder Throws Spanner in Conservation Campaign Works
From: Daniel Nuijten <>
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 09:21:40 +0100
This is for sure not the case in Netherlands. If you want to visit private
land you go and talk to the owner. Areas that are for public use are always
indicated as such. Plus when you are asked what you are doing on the land
it is never appropriate to lie. He could have just apologized and indicate
he was not aware that the land was off-limits.

On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 9:16 AM, calyptorhynchus . <
> wrote:

> You may have explained it to him, but he obviously didn't understand. In
> many European countries there is public access to all farm land, but this
> may have been the cause of the misunderstanding.
> John Leonard
> On 8 December 2014 at 17:32, Greg Roberts <> wrote:
> >
> >
> > The irresponsible behaviour of a visiting Dutch birder has seriously
> > compromised efforts to protect a valuable wetland and waterbird
> > habitat on Queensland's Sunshine Coast.
> > An impressive list of species that are rare in south-east Queensland
> > for the Yandina Creek Wetlands includes Eastern Grass Owl, Red-backed
> > Buttonquail, Large-tailed Nightjar, Australian Spotted Crake,
> > Australian Painted Snipe, Broad-billed Sandpiper, Lewin's Rail, King
> > Quail, Black-necked Stork, Australian Little Bittern and Black-tailed
> > Native-hen. The extent and richness of the wetlands was unknown until
> > recently, when I stumbled upon a large area of marshland while
> > surveying the boundaries of two sugar cane farms that I have
> > permission to bird on. I submitted an application to the Sunshine
> > Coast Regional Council for the acquisition of three properties
> > covering 200 hectares under its land conservation program. Various
> > birding and environmental organisations supported the application and
> > efforts were underway the identify the owners of the properties to
> > seek their permission for a comprehensive survey of the area by a team
> > of experts.
> > I published some of the interesting bird records to draw attention to
> > the site, and several people contacted me to seek information about
> > visiting. I explained why there was no public access at this time.
> > This information was conveyed in no uncertain terms by me and other
> > locals to a visiting Dutch birder, Pieter De Groot Boesma. However,
> > Pieter decided to ignore that advice and enter the properties without
> > permission. He was found by the owners and when questioned, he told
> > them the site was being used for birding tours. This information was
> > false but the owners, upset that people were trespassing and
> > apparently using their land for commercial purposes without
> > permission, have placed a ban on any birders entering the properties.
> > Worse, the owners have refused permission for a team of experts to
> > survey the area, and have indicated they are not interested in
> > negotiating a sale to the council. Those interested in protecting the
> > area were deprived of the opportunity of first contact to establish a
> > good relationship with the property owners.
> > Pieter has enjoyed the hospitality of several Australian birders
> > through birding-pal. It is disappointing that he repays that kindness
> > with behaviour of this kind. I notice today that Pieter posted
> > photographs of mine from Saturday's Sunshine Coast pelagic on social
> > media without acknowledgement, so the lad has form if nothing else.
> > Greg Roberts
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