I recall that some days ago you asked re the status of the subspecies
atrifrons of Lesser Sand Plover in Australia. As I had no idea I forwarded
the question to Danny
Rogers whose reply is below. Hope this helps.
Thank you very much for your help with the identification of our Long-billed
Mike Carter, 03 9787 7136
30 Canadian Bay Road
Mount Eliza, VIC 3930, Australia
From: Danny Rogers
Sent: Sunday, 23 November 2014 1:43 PM
To: Mike Carter; Adrian Boyle; George Swann of Kimberley Birdwatching
Subject: Re: FW: [Birding-Aus] RFI status of Lesser Sand Plover C. m.
Sorry about the slow and hasty reply.
I haven't been able to find any satisfactory records of any atrifrons group
Lesser Sand Plovers in Australia, and have never seen one myself - I've only
seen mongolus and probable stegmanni. There are a few published claims in
early Stilts and I think elsewhere, but when I reviewed them for HANZAB,
none of them stood up - they were all based on incorrect perceptions about
On 16/11/2014 4:11 PM, Mike Carter wrote:
> Can you help with this?
> Mike Carter, 03 9787 7136
> 30 Canadian Bay Road
> Mount Eliza, VIC 3930, Australia
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Birding-Aus On
> Behalf Of Joseph Morlan
> Sent: Thursday, 13 November 2014 5:03 AM
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] RFI status of Lesser Sand Plover C. m.
> Has there been any progress establishing the true status and
> distribution of C. m. atrifrons in Australia since the account
> published in HANZAB? The latest Clements & IOC checklists indicates
> atrifrons winters no closer to Australia than Sumatra and the Greater
> However Pizzy & Knight digital edition include both C. m. mongolus and C.
> m. atrifons (sic), but supply no details on status. Also the
> illustrations of the two forms in non-breeding plumage seem to be
> reversed with atrifons
> (sic) shown having a white forehead and mongolus with a dark forehead.
> Are the P&K plates backwards?
> Thanks in advance.
> Joseph Morlan, Pacifica, CA
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