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Cuckoo ID from Norfolk Island

To: Mike Carter <>, 'martin cachard' <>, 'greg clancy' <>, 'Craig Doolan' <>, "" <>
Subject: Cuckoo ID from Norfolk Island
From: Peter Ewin <>
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 21:01:52 +1100
Evevning all,
I have seen what I thought was an adult Pallid Cuckoo feeding a juvenile near 
Loughnan Nature Reserve (central NSW near Hillston) in the mid 90s - my 
recollectionwas that the bird being fed was in juvenile plumage and was 
certainly making a very distinctive begging call (which is what attracted me in 
the first place). Unfortunately I can't track down the exact date, but I 
suspect it was late November which would match the time frames of the recent 
photograph.
I thought there was some research that suggested that adult cuckoos 
occassionally fed juveniles when encountered (can't resist the parenting 
instinct themselves) and from handling a few banded birds they definately 
develop brood patches. There is the possibility that juvenile plumage is 
retained for longer periods, and females have a range of plumages (in many 
cuckoos they have the 'hepatic' or reddish form) but I would be surprised if 
there are not documented examples of adult cuckoos feeding known juvenile birds 
(i.e. observed also being fed by host parents) in the literature.
Cheers,
Peter

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> 
> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 12:14:00 +1100
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Cuckoo ID from Norfolk Island
> 
> I agree that it is a Pallid Cuckoo but as I recently learned when discussing
> with others a claim put to me of an adult Pallid Cuckoo feeding a juvenile
> Pallid Cuckoo, it is not necessarily a juvenile. More likely I suggest it is
> an adult female. Apparently female Pallid Cuckoos can resemble, perhaps
> retain, juvenile plumage into adulthood. In that instance it was concluded
> that it was a male courting an adult female by feeding her, a behaviour that
> has also previously been misinterpreted.   
> In  Margaret Christian's book 'Norfolk Island - the Birds' (2005), Pallid
> Cuckoo has the status of 'rare vagrant'.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Birding-Aus  On Behalf Of
> martin cachard
> Sent: Friday, 21 November 2014 8:21 AM
> To: greg clancy; Craig Doolan; 
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Cuckoo ID from Norfolk Island
> 
> i'm with Greg, a young Pallid Cuckoo for mine...
> cheers,
>  
> martin cachard, 
> cairns
>  
> 
>  
> > From: 
> > To: ; 
> > Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 22:29:33 +1100
> > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Cuckoo ID from Norfolk Island
> > 
> > Looks like a juvenile-immature Pallid Cuckoo to me.
> > 
> > Regards
> > Greg
> > 
> > Dr Greg. P. Clancy
> > Ecologist and Birding-wildlife Guide
> > | PO Box 63 Coutts Crossing NSW 2460
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> > http://www.gregclancyecologistguide.com
> > http://gregswildliferamblings.blogspot.com.au/
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: Craig Doolan 
> > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 5:31 PM 
> > To:  
> > Subject: [Birding-Aus] Cuckoo ID from Norfolk Island 
> > 
> > Can anyone help me out with the ID of this cuckoo observed on Norfolk 
> > Island yesterday morning??
> > 
> > m("N06/","//www.flickr.com/photos/129533743");">https:
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> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Craig Doolan
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