Hi Ross,
Not trying to flame the debate but who is going to be the lucky person who is
allowed to go and see them?
Who makes that decision?
Is Sarah Brown able to get out there and survey the whole area solo quickly
enough to make a difference?
Would a Birdlife co-ordinated survey outing into that area be a good place to
start?
Or would letting some twitchers get out there be the fastest way to fill in
more pieces of the puzzle?
Not trying to stir - these are legitimate questions.
Cheers
David
On 22/09/2014, at 6:17 PM, "Ross Macfarlane" <> wrote:
> Well in this case Kevin I would have to disagree. I don't think "one would
> hope" is enough reason to ignore the risk caused by a sudden increase in the
> human population density. I'm not proposing to close the walking track off,
> just to discourage a sudden influx of numbers until we understand what the
> impact might be. There are other places where the Mallee emu-wren can be
> found.
>
> Cheers, Ross Macfarlane
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Kev Lobotomi
> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 5:54 PM
> To: Ross Macfarlane ; martin cachard ; Tim Dolby ;
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Mallee Emu-wren at Wyperfeld
>
> Since twitchers have been going there for 40 years looking for the only
> twitchable population of redthroat in Victoria and despite this the redthroat
> still survives there one would hope it wouldn't make any difference anyway.
> Kevin bartram
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: "Ross Macfarlane" <>
> Sent: 22 September 2014 5:45 PM
> To: "martin cachard" <>, "Tim Dolby"
> <>,
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Mallee Emu-wren at Wyperfeld
>
> Folks, this is tremendous news and potentially a really significant boost to
> the survival chances of the Mallee emu-wren, as when Sarah Brown completed
> her PhD a few years ago she was unable to locate any populations outside of
> the Murray-Sunset / Hattah-Kulkyne complex, as it was generally believed the
> populations in Ngarkat had been decimated by the fires in the early 2000s.
> Since she also found they had very poor rates of dispersal, to find a
> population here really is wonderful news as just maybe a small cryptic
> population has been hanging on in a place no one had expected to find them.
>
> I would just like to add though: can we please not have a mad rush of
> twitchers going looking for them in this place, at least and until someone
> has been able to have a quiet look and see how many there are and how viable
> this population is? This is one of our most vulnerable bird species, as the
> MS/HK population is the last stronghold, and it could be wiped out overnight
> by a big fire in the wrong place. This new population has the chance to
> change the picture for this species' survival, so please can we not muck it
> up until we know how safe it is in this new location...
>
> Yours in stipiturid sincerity,
> Ross Macfarlane
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: martin cachard
> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 8:47 AM
> To: Tim Dolby ;
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Mallee Emu-wren at Wyperfeld
>
> hey Tim,
> that's such wonderful news!!
>
> many moons ago I stumbled upon a family party of Mallee Emu-Wrens at Big
> Billy Bore, further west in the northern Big Desert in the early 1980's... I
> was in the area looking for Red-lored Whistlers.
> the habitat was very thick Broombrush-heath with very sparse small patches
> of spinifex, so it seems they don't mind sparse spinifex as a habitat
> preference...
> i'm not sure how long it's been since they have been recorded in the Big
> Desert.
>
> cheers,
> martin cachard,
> cairns
>
>
>
>> From:
>> To:
>> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 06:38:17 +0000
>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Mallee Emu-wren at Wyperfeld
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> If anyone's heading to Wyperfeld National Park (Vic), Matthew Crawford has
>> just photographed a family of Mallee Emu-wren along the Discovery Walk,
>> see http://www.eremaea.com. Remarkably he found the birds in an area of
>> open tea-tree woodland - although there are some stands of triodia nearby,
>> he was some distance from significant area of triodia. Despite extensive
>> previous surveys of Wyperfeld there's have been very reports of Mallee
>> Emu-wren, and their presence along the Discovery Walk seems to me to be
>> new and remarkable. In fact when I first heard about it I’d dismissed as
>> miss-ID’d eclipsed Splendid or Variegated Fairy-wren. So I’m currently
>> eating humble pie! Why are they there now? Migration, population
>> expansion, or perhaps displacement due to fires?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Tim
>>
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