Attached, although Birding Aus people will not get the attachment. The
study was particularly looking at whether insectivorous birds were impacted
by the reduction of insects as a result of insecticides. So there's
nothing in the study to suggest that Neonictoninoids have any direct effect
on birds, just that they reduce their food by doing the things we know they
do (kill insects) (and quantifying that).
On 10 July 2014 16:21, Carl Clifford <> wrote:
> Not having read the paper in Nature referred to, I could not answer that,
> but with the paper appearing in Nature, I would think that the idea has
> some legs.
>
> Carl Clifford
>
> On 10 Jul 2014, at 15:25, "Jeremy O'Wheel" <> wrote:
>
> The study seems to have found that birds that eat insects are less likely
> to be found in areas that are sprayed with insecticides, and then the
> journalist has implied it could be a consequence of chemical, rather than
> just the food chain, but I don't see what evidence there is for that.
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> On 10 July 2014 13:53, Carl Clifford <> wrote:
>
>> I wonder what the effects are in Australia? I also wonder, has anyone
>> been looking?
>>
>>
>> http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jul/09/neonicotinoids-farmland-birds
>>
>> Carl Clifford
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