To: martin cachard <>, "birding-aus (E-mail)" <>
Subject: Overwintering
From: Peter Morgan <>
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 11:02:11 +1000
Thanks Martin
We haven't noticed any Plovers or Turnstone staying on before.  We could have 
missed them.
But if they are young staying over then just a couple is a relatively small 
number of the mob we usually have.

Peter Morgan
The conservation battle is never finally won; the development battle is.

> On 30 Jun 2014, at 10:13 pm, martin cachard <> wrote:
> hi Peter,
> I would have thought that these Golden Plovers & Turnstones that u have there 
> are quite likely 1st year birds that haven't returned to their breeding 
> grounds in their 1st year.  Given that they haven't attained the breeding 
> plumage of adult birds tends to supports that they are juv/imm birds.
> I maybe wrong here, but I've always thought that most (or is it all??) 1st 
> year migratory waders spend their first northern summer in their southern 
> wintering grounds... 
> or is it that some adult birds that aren't fit for breeding also stay in 
> their non-breeding grounds along with the 1st year birds as well??
> cheers 
> martin cachard
> > From: 
> > Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 19:49:03 +1000
> > Here at Brooms Head, we seem to have lost the Bar-tailed Godwit that has 
> > been around for the last couple of winters, but gained a couple of Golden 
> > Plovers and Ruddy Turnstones. They have not moved in to breeding plumage.
> > Peter and Bev Morgan.
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