To: Peter Morgan <>, "birding-aus (E-mail)" <>
Subject: Overwintering
From: martin cachard <>
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 22:43:15 +1030
hi Peter,
I would have thought that these Golden Plovers & Turnstones that u have there 
are quite likely 1st year birds that haven't returned to their breeding grounds 
in their 1st year.  Given that they haven't attained the breeding plumage of 
adult birds tends to supports that they are juv/imm birds.
I maybe wrong here, but I've always thought that most (or is it all??) 1st year 
migratory waders spend their first northern summer in their southern wintering 
or is it that some adult birds that aren't fit for breeding also stay in their 
non-breeding grounds along with the 1st year birds as well??
martin cachard
0428 782 808
> From: 
> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 19:49:03 +1000
> To: 
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Overwintering
> There has been some discussion of "overwintering" birds.  Just throwing this 
> in.
> Here at Brooms Head, we seem to have lost the Bar-tailed Godwit that has been 
> around for the last couple of winters, but gained a couple of Golden Plovers 
> and Ruddy Turnstones. They have not moved in to breeding plumage.
> Peter and Bev Morgan.
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