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Small seabirds of Blue Rocks

To: Nikolas Haass <>, Russell Woodford <>, Kev Lobotomi <>
Subject: Small seabirds of Blue Rocks
From: martin cachard <>
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2014 08:24:50 +1030
hi Russell,
 
I'm with Kev on this...the pattern of flight alone harks of Fluttering-type 
Shearwaters to me...
from my own experience i'd also say that they appear far more chunky than 
prions too, & especially from a distance, which further points to Flutterer's 
too..
cheers,
 
martin cachard,
cairns
0428 782 808
 
  
 
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> Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2014 13:21:25 +0000
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> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Small seabirds of Blue Rocks
> 
> Hi Russell,
> 
> Yes, Storm-petrels do hang around in flocks. E.g. I have seen approx.
> 5,000 Ashy Storm-petrels (about 50% of the world population) in one dense
> raft off California. Here in Australia I've seen a flock of 300 Wilson's
> Storm-petrels and smaller flocks of other species. However, your
> description doesn't really fit Storm-petrels. The only one that matches
> the coloration you mentioned would be White-faced Storm-petrel. But flight
> style doesn't fit. Looks like further information is needed to identify
> them.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Nikolas
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> On 1/06/14 10:57 PM, "Russell Woodford" <> wrote:
> 
> >Hi Kevin
> >
> >These seemed a lot smaller, or at least chunkier (shorter-winged and stout
> >body) than shearwaters. I tried to look for the M marking to make them
> >some
> >sort of Prion but I just couldn't see enough detail.
> >
> >I wondered about CDP but as I've never seen one I wouldn't stick my neck
> >out and try to identify anything as a diving-petrel. And storm-petrel
> >don't
> >hang around in flocks, do they?
> >
> >I think the closest I can get is "dumpy seabirds a long way away." I think
> >I need to go on another pelagic!
> >
> >Cheers
> >
> >Russell
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On 1 June 2014 22:48, Kev Lobotomi <> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Russell
> >> What you describe reminds me more of Fluttering Shearwaters. They tend
> >>to
> >> flap a lot & then glide. Fluttering are blackish above white below,
> >>prions
> >> are blue-grey above with a distinct M marking across the upperparts &
> >>white
> >> below. Prions have a more buoyant flight with lots of gliding and
> >>pattering
> >> on the surface. I suppose the other possibility is Diving Petrels, but
> >>they
> >> are rarely seen from shore. They are tiny compared to the other two &
> >>their
> >> flight is not dissimilar to a quail with a whirr of wings, although
> >>they do
> >> glide a little as well in a strong breeze.-Kevin Bartram
> >>
> >> > Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2014 22:34:09 +1000
> >> > From: 
> >> > To: 
> >> > Subject: [Birding-Aus] Small seabirds of Blue Rocks
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Also late this afternoon, close to sunset, very hazy ...
> >> >
> >> > There was a group of 45-50 smallish dumpy seabirds about a kilometer
> >>off
> >> > the beach. They would head in one direction, then wheel around and
> >>head
> >> in
> >> > the other. They did this for a few turns then headed westwards. Flight
> >> > usually began with fast wingbeats followed by short glides very low
> >>over
> >> > water. Some birds landed briefly. White contrasting with darker grey,
> >> but I
> >> > couldn't pick up any clearer markings. Fairy Prion? Or too hard to
> >>call?
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