NT Hoopoe

To: Peter Lansley <>, "" <>, Mike Carter <>, "Nikolas Haass" <>
Subject: NT Hoopoe
From: Tim Dolby <>
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 03:42:22 +0000
Unfortunately Tim Wethers didn’t get any images of an open wings.

As a aside, Tim has made one other significant sighting at Elcho Island in the 
NT, see:



From: Birding-Aus  on behalf of Peter 
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 9:26 AM
Subject: NT Hoopoe

Hi all,

having just ticked off African Hoopoe (in Africa - where else!),
a couple of comments on the NT bird (postings dated 3rd March 2014), if I may.

Firstly, the IOC checklist version 4.1 (2014), and earlier versions split 
African and Eurasian Hoopoes.
Thus we have Upupa epops and U. africana.
(And a third species Madagascar Hoopoe U. marginata.)

Secondly, the far eastern subspecies is no longer considered to be saturata, it 
is longirostris
ranging from ne. India through to s. China, Indochina and n. Malay Peninsula 
(IOC 4.1). So could be difficult
to pin down the subspecies - the NT bird could be nominate epops which breeds 
from Europe and
nw. Africa to nw. India, south central Russia and nw. China.

Thirdly, as alluded to, it is very useful to see the open wing, since africana
has a large white patch in the secondaries which is lacking in all subspecies
of epops (these have black and white barring). U. epops has a white bar in the 
outer primaries that is
lacking in africana. Africana is also appreciably darker overall.


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