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Pizzey and Knight app

To: "'Peter Shute'" <>
Subject: Pizzey and Knight app
From: "Guy Gibbon" <>
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 10:05:38 +0200
Hello Peter

The distribution lists are based on the whole degree co-ordinates, and are
intended as shortlists to work from. But if you think that's too big an area
we can look at narrowing it down. Just when you are under pressure to
produce an entire app with all the data and functionality there is, getting
involved in a huge dataset of lists for much smaller areas seemed like a
mountain at the time.

The birding site pins are dropped onto the map when you tap the binocular
symbol. Selecting a birding site pin will open a banner with the site name
and two icons. Tap the right arrow to open the birding site text page. Tap
the left list icon to open the bird list.

I must admit I forgot to mention this functionality in the Help file. So
much to describe I suppose. I guess I also think of drop pins with banners
and functions as being standard iOS functionality that don't require
description. Sorry about that.

Regards
Guy Gibbon
wwww.gibbonmm.com.au


-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Shute  
Sent: 03 December 2013 09:24 AM
To: Guy Gibbon
Cc: John Leonard; 
Subject: Pizzey and Knight app

Guy, is the one degree square based on "whole degree" coordinates, or is it
half a degree either side of the chosen location? I.e could your location
turn out to be close to the edge of the square?

How do I access birding site lists from the map? I worked out I can display
their locations by tapping the binoculars symbol. What then?

Peter Shute

Sent from my iPad

> On 3 Dec 2013, at 5:47 pm, "Guy Gibbon" <> wrote:
> 
> Peter is correct. 
> 
> The bird lists are based on bird distributions within your selected 
> one-degree square, and represent what you may reasonably expect given 
> a full range of habitats and long period of observation. Vagrants are not
included.
> I think of them as 'maximum potential' lists, as opposed to observed 
> lists which represent limited areas, habitats and observation times. 
> In an Australian context the degree square is quite a small area, but 
> does mean that coastal areas may have a mix of inland, coastal and 
> even sea birds on the list. The lists are however intended as 
> shortlists to 'work from' in making your own list, and avoid having to 
> scroll though 900 species when doing so.
> 
> The birding site lists are also available from the My Location map, 
> and these use a smaller area for the lists. I will however look into 
> using a smaller distribution area for an app update. Perhaps we can 
> refine those lists a bit more. And yes, you do have to select an area to
get a bird list.
> This is done by either selecting 'current location', or using the drop 
> pin for a new location.
> 
> As an aside, the Windows PC app has additional functionality in that 
> you can 'draw' a much smaller area, colour in a larger area, or trace a
route.
> 
> Regards
> Guy Gibbon
> wwww.gibbonmm.com.au
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 
>  On Behalf Of Peter 
> Shute
> Sent: 03 December 2013 06:30 AM
> To: 'John Leonard'; 
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Pizzey and knight app
> 
> I think it generates the list for the the one degree "square" of 
> latitude and longitude of your position, which works out to about 
> 100km square at that latitude, so you should certainly get more than
coastal species listed.
> I think you also have to nominate the location of that "square", so 
> perhaps something went wrong with that too.
> 
> Peter Shute
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: 
>>  On Behalf Of John 
>> Leonard
>> Sent: Tuesday, 3 December 2013 2:40 PM
>> To: 
>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Pizzey and knight app
>> 
>> As I and tahini in ulladulla over Xmas I decided to use this app to 
>> generate a list to remind me of coastal species to keep a look out 
>> for.
>> 
>> The app generated a list of 183 spp, but early in the alphabet it 
>> listed
>> 
>> Bellbird, Crested
>> Bowerbird, Western
>> Buzzard, Black-breasted
>> 
>> I tried it again, and it returned a list of 0 species :-(
>> 
>> John Leonard
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