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Morcombe vs. Pizzey app sounds

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Subject: Morcombe vs. Pizzey app sounds
From: David Adams <>
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 22:02:23 +1100
> As for the call descriptions in field guides, they at least help you
narrow down the possibilities when you're trying to id a call, and they
help as mnemonics.

Fair enough! Even though they haven't been of much help to me, that's a
reflection on me as much as anything else. I have noticed a few guides
around the world are starting to include sonograms for species where it's
appropriate. Faansie Peacock's LBJs of Southern Africa does this, as an
example. In many ways, that's the single finest field guide that I have
ever seen. Now I just have to learn to read the diagrams...


On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 8:50 PM, Peter Shute <> wrote:

> The Morcombe app seems to break the calls up into types more. E.g. For
> Lewin's Rail, there is "krek", "grunt" and "squeaky grunt and knock" in
> three separate tracks, whereas the Pizzey app has only one track containing
> some krekking and some grunting. I find it useful to have them broken up.
>
> On the other hand, Pizzey includes the location for every track, while
> Morcombe doesn't.
>
> The Pizzey app starts playing the first track as soon as you open the
> sound section for a species, and continues on to the second when it's
> finished. I much prefer Morcombe in that regard. It only plays the track
> you select.
>
> Has anyone compared the tracks on these apps with what's on the BOCA CDs?
> Those are all rolled into one track per species, probably because of
> there's a limit to the number of tracks allowed on a single CD, but are all
> well described in the notes for each CD. When's that coming out as an app?
>
> As for the call descriptions in field guides, they at least help you
> narrow down the possibilities when you're trying to id a call, and they
> help as mnemonics.
>
> Peter Shute
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 27 Nov 2013, at 6:47 pm, "David Adams" <> wrote:
> >
> > I've been trying out the sounds on the Pizzey app and comparing them with
> > the Morcombe app here and there. Today I tried out the calls for Forest
> and
> > Sacred Kingfishers on both apps. What I've been finding with my random
> > sampling is that the collection of calls are often complimentary. If I
> had
> > to pick one app based on pictures, it would be Pizzey. If I had to pick
> one
> > on sounds...it would be tough. David Stewart's recordings on Morcombe are
> > excellent, as everyone knows. (I particularly like it that the natural
> gaps
> > are left in place.) Then again, the Morcombe app often has a wide range
> of
> > calls.
> >
> > So, if you can only manage to get one app...I'm not sure...but if you can
> > get both, you'll probably be glad of it.
> >
> > Unless you don't like apps, in which case, you can stick to the field
> guide
> > transcriptions of sounds. "LIke a box of marbles falling down stairs
> > covered in maple syrup-EEEH-WOOH...falling away on the second note."
> That's
> > not quite fair, but I can't say that I've ever found a written sound
> > description of any help.
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