Chestnut-breasted Whiteface access, Mount Lyndhurst Station - NOT GOOD N

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Subject: Chestnut-breasted Whiteface access, Mount Lyndhurst Station - NOT GOOD NEWS
From: "Stephen Ambrose" <>
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 13:55:36 +1000
I think Eric makes a very valid point - it's always best to work in
co-operation with landholders/leaseholders rather than against them.

I joined a field research group for four years over 30 years ago which
camped and conducted ecological research on leasehold land in north-western
Australia. The field research team had been visiting that property
regularly, for 2 to 3 weeks at a time, for nearly 20 years by the time I had
joined it. When the visits began in the 1960s the research team had gained
permission from the leaseholder to camp on the land. But the land changed
hands in the late 1970s and the research team continued to camp on the land
without consulting the new leaseholder. When the new leaseholder found the
research team camping on the land (in 1982) he was not very pleased that he
had not known about it for five years. But when the leader of the research
team explained why they were there and the history of its previous
relationship with the past leaseholder, the current leaseholder was happy to
assist in any way possible.  Among other things, it led to the leaseholder
offering the research team accommodation in the shearers' quarters and even
trail bikes to assist with getting around the property. The research group
reciprocated by checking with the leaseholder before embarking on subsequent
trips if he wanted us to bring any special supplies for him from Perth. The
leaseholder was also really grateful to receive papers that were published
from the results of the research.

Stephen Ambrose  
Ryde NSW

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Subject: Chestnut-breasted Whiteface access, Mount
Lyndhurst Station - NOT GOOD NEWS

Greetings Birds Ozers,

While I think it's legitimate to know your rights in relation to public
interest, access to leasehold lands, etc, I don't think entertaining the
idea of using public right to gain access is a good idea in this instance.
It doesn't sound like the landholder is anti-bird, or even strongly
anti-birdo. There seems to be no immediate need for strong conservation
efforts for CBWFs. Accessing the land and using public right as your welcome
mat is extremely adversarial and is likely to get landholders way off side.
Far better to attempt gentle persuasion and a love of the birds, (which
already seems to be in place), and if that fails, live a little and go and
find them somewhere else. I regularly work on leasehold properties and the
idea of having someone go before me who has explained to the landholder that
it's a lease and therefore access is legal for whatever reason makes me

Going back to the original post on this topic, the fences that will require
mending will be 5 strand, barbed, electrified etc. If the landholder has
said he'd like visitors to call 2 weeks in advance, well,  you know what to




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