Well said, Mick, I couldn't agree more!
Gary
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From: Mick & Marie <>
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Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 11:06:04 PM
Subject: [Birding-Aus] A fair go for John Young
I’ve been following the postings on the re-discovery of the Night Parrot and on
John Young, mainly between the earliest reports on 27 June through until 6
July. Most of that coverage was congratulatory, but a few couldn’t help
expressing suspicion and distrust. Following the presentation of Young’s
evidence in support of his find, postings on the subject seemed to die away
after 6 July
One of the reasons for this may have been a posting by Friarbird 43 on 6 July,
providing his notes from when he attended Young’s presentation. This provided
so much more information than had previously been available, with an insight
into how Young had gone about his search, what had been learned about the
bird’s biology and its habitat, plus his ideas on the management considerations
and research priorities which lie ahead. It also referred to the location being
on private land, and the understanding he had earlier established with the
landowner that the site would not be publicised. If you haven’t read this
posting, it is highly recommended.
It is easy to skate over the days and nights involved in Young’s search without
thinking about it too much. The search area would most likely have had no
running water, and temperatures varying from around zero to the mid forties.
This went on for days and particularly nights on end, then weeks, then months,
then years without the slightest sign of success or progress. How anyone could
show such determination and persistence for that length of time and in such
rugged and demanding environment is quite beyond me. Then when he finally did
identify a call, it took him another five years to obtain the evidence needed
to verify his find. If you heard one of the radio interviews at the time, you
will have heard the excitement in Young’s voice and so get some understanding
of how he felt about this bird that he had worked so long to find. Clearly in
his view the bird will come first ahead of any other considerations, and that
extends to his
determination to see it adequately conserved and protected.
Against this background, two major issues have emerged – the release of the
call and how the bird can be best conserved and protected – that are legitimate
matters of debate. I can see both sides of the argument in regard to the
release of the call, but it is not valid to assume that because Young has
stated that he will not be releasing the call generally that it may not play a
role in future research ( read Friarbird’s notes on research and conservation).
Similarly everyone agrees that conservation/protection is essential, but views
differ on how it should best be managed. One position is put that it should be
handed over to Government for best results. This at a time where Government is
proposing to permit shooting in National Parks. If it were to be passed to
Government, we would see TV bites and headline-grabbing press releases, and
then it would become just another item of expenditure. How long adequate
funding would be available in the tight future budgetary years that are being
forecast , as it becomes just another program to be pruned back, is anybody’s
guess. If we think outside the square, there are a number of privately funded
organisations which already carry out valuable work of this nature. An obvious
example is the Australian Wildlife Conservancy, which took over the running of
Newhaven Station from Birds Australia. So in the end, we all agree that
conservation action is critical. From
Friarbirds notes, that includes Young perhaps more than any of us. Maybe
action will be taken by both Government and privately funded organisations.
Let’s keep an open mind in the interim.
If commentary was restricted to these legitimate debates, I probably wouldn’t
have put pen to paper myself. However other comments have been made which I
think are so negative that they need some sort of response. It has been stated
that there are “numerous inconsistencies in Young’s recounting of his latest
(my italics) discovery”. The author’s previous paragraphs were highly critical
of the standard of journalism and the lack of good science journalists, but as
the author stated that he has never spoken to Young, the recounting referred to
had to be what the media said Young had said. I have had some experience with
the media, to the point that I always prepared a written handout of the key
points I wanted to make , but even that seldom prevented inaccurate reporting
of what had been said.
The author went on to say that if Young “had located an active nest, as he
claims (my italics again), then it should have been as straightforward as
placing a camera trap at the entrance to the nest and he would have procured
images of birds coming and going in short order.” That may be right. However
two earlier postings are relevant; Rob Morris (3 July): “Having listened to
John and seen his presentation - I am just beginning to get a sense of how
sensitive this species is”; Ian Davies (4 July): “John really stressed the
value of disturbing the species as little as possible, as they are an extremely
shy and wary creature, and as he says they are the hardest bird he has ever
worked with". With the birds being so sensitive to disturbance, anyone who put
the birds first would not even consider intrusion around the next site even if
there was only the slightest risk of the nest being abandoned . I’m not sure
when the last Night Parrot chicks
were sighted, but who would want to risk these historic ones being abandoned?
Another criticism was that Young had known of the population of the birds for 5
years but had told no-one. Its one thing to know something, another all
together to be able to prove it. If he had simply announced that he had found
the bird, but had no physical evidence to support the claim, what sort of
response might he have expected?
I won’t go on to react to the many personal asides that are made in Young’s
direction, such as
a.. “Raises suspicions as to John’s motives”
b.. “By trying to hold on to a monopoly of information..he has create a
situation that almost guarantees his irrelevance”
c.. “the depiction of John in that future natural history is right now on the
knife-edge, teetering between legend and infamy”
d.. “again this brings us back to John’s sharing of the call or eventual
irrelevance when another recording becomes available , as it certainly will”
e.. “it makes one wonder at his motivations for the big reveal in the first
place ... What forced his hand? Rivals threatening to steal his thunder?”
f.. “I have been told the location of the site...this just points to John’s
complete inability to manage the on-going stewardship of the site and the
species..”
Why must people be so negative? It seems that those who have had issues with
John in the past are unable to put them aside and must continue to view
whatever he does through that prism. Invariably they will include their
apparently sincere congratulations of his undisputed achievement, but then
can’t just leave it at that. Another of Young’s major detractors has been
blacklisted as by two reputable bird tour operator (not Young!) because of an
unpleasant experiences he has created on previous tours, as well as by a
significant Government scientific institution, but then writes as (hanging)
judge and jury in constantly critical articles about Young.
Perhaps the best way I can conclude this article is to quote Russell Woodford,
Birding-Aus Founder and List Owner, from his posting of 30 June...
“Can I please make the point that dragging up old issues that have been
debated, argued and fought over is not likely to resolve them any better this
time around? I don't stifle genuine debate, but I will do whatever I can to
prevent mud-slinging, bullying and abuse on this forum. Stirring up old
arguments is unlikely to do anything but generate resentment and intemperate
invective.” ...
and simply ask that John Young be given a fair go
Mick Brasher
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