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Chatting while bird watching in a group

To: John Harris <>, Tony Russell <>, Carl Clifford <>
Subject: Chatting while bird watching in a group
From: Denise Goodfellow <>
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 13:05:59 +0930
I think you and I chatted that delightful night at the sewage ponds.  Can
you think of a term for that?
Denise

On 12/7/13 12:38 PM, ""
<> wrote:

> Hi all,
> I cannot see a problem with babbling while watching babblers, chatting while
> looking at chats, larking while spotting larks or even being a drongo while
> viewing drongos :-D
> 
> As long as you get out of it what you want, everybody wants something
> different....
> 
> Yours in all things "green"
> 
> John Harris
> Croydon, Vic
> Owner - Wildlife Experiences
> Ecologist/Zoologist
> Nature Photographer
> Wildlife Guide
> 
> 0409090955
> 
> President, Field Naturalists Club of Victoria
> (www.fncv.org.au)
> 
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Tony Russell" <>
> To: "'Carl Clifford'" <>
> Cc: <>
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Chatting while bird watching in a group
> Date: Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:56
> 
> 
> Yep, me too Carl.  But this does often limit social interaction which at
> other times may be desirable for some folk.  I prefer a clear distinction
> between birding and socializing - for me, ne'er the twain should meet, not
> on outings anyway.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carl Clifford 
> Sent: Friday, 12 July 2013 9:59 AM
> To: Tony Russell
> Cc: Alan Gillanders; Allan Richardson; Philip Veerman;
> 
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Chatting while bird watching in a group
> 
> The seemingly endless chatter that goes on among birders in groups, is the
> main reason why I no longer go out birding with groups. I only go birding by
> myself or with one or two others that I know that can keep shtum.
> 
> Carl Clifford
> 
> On 12/07/2013, at 8:57, "Tony Russell" <> wrote:
> 
>> Whenever I go out birding with a talkative group I always find myself
>> becoming impatient with their chatter and move out ahead of them.
>> Their chatting is often nothing to do with birds or birding, just
>> social, family or kitchen table stuff. No amount of shushing seems to
>> have any effect - I often wonder why they have bothered coming out
>> because they tend to miss lots of birds anyway even if they do quiet
>> down briefly, the birds having moved on.  Such chatting should be reserved
> for bird call time.
>> 
>> Grumpy old Tony.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: 
>>  On Behalf Of Alan
>> Gillanders
>> Sent: Thursday, 11 July 2013 3:54 PM
>> To: Allan Richardson; Philip Veerman
>> Cc: 
>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Chatting while bird watching in a group
>> 
>> G'day Allan,
>> I have a Golden Bowerbird which responds positively to my voice
> (sometimes).
>> 
>> I do not feed this bird or offer him any enticements. One time when I
>> approached the bower there was a group already there who informed me
>> that the bird was not around. I new better as I had heard him quietly
>> doing his not very good Crimson Rosella imitations. I got everyone set
>> up around the bower at a distance which would not upset the bird and
>> spoke loudly, "Good morning handsome." He came down to a nearby
>> sapling before heading over to his favourite perch from which to watch his
> bower. All had good looks.
>> 
>> On reflection it might have been, "G'day Stupid." It is not only this
>> bird which is somewhat disturbed.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Alan
>> 
>> 
>> Alan's Wildlife Tours
>> 2 Mather Road
>> Yungaburra 4884
>> 
>> Phone 07 4095 3784
>> Mobile 0408 953 786
>> http://www.alanswildlifetours.com.au/
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Allan Richardson
>> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 4:02 PM
>> To: Philip Veerman
>> Cc: 
>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Chatting while bird watching in a group
>> 
>> Hi Phil,
>> 
>> I reckon the chatting would mean your list for the day would be lower,
>> not because of flushing birds (unless someone is unduly loud), but
>> because of missing birds while your mind isn't on the job at hand.
>> 
>> Nevertheless - birds do have a way of being obvious sometimes when
>> folk are relaxed.
>> 
>> Allan Richardson
>> Morisset NSW
>> 
>> On 11/07/2013, at 3:17 PM, Philip Veerman wrote:
>> 
>>> Peter wrote: "I'm also wondering if making voice notes ever spooks
> birds."
>>> That struck me as amusing. Mainly because my formative birding years
>>> were as a young teenager with the BOCA in the early 1970s. I recall
>>> many loud chatterings among excited people looking at birds. Amusing
>>> chat of people talking not just amongst but to themselves. Social
>>> groups are still like that. Surely Peter has also been with a group
>>> of birders looking at birds and discussing what it is - or discussing
>>> the weather or football or anything else. And been able to see the
>>> reaction. Then again it is hard to know if people talking is what
>>> would make a bird move away. Yes of course for some birds quietness
>>> helps but I doubt that one person discretely talking into a machine
>>> held a few cm from their face is a problem.
>>> 
>>> But thanks to Peter for adding a subject line........
>>> 
>>> Philip
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----From:
>>> 
>>>  On Behalf Of Peter
>>> Shute
>>> Sent: Thursday, 11 July 2013 3:35 AM To: Carl Clifford Cc:
>>> <> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Recorders for
>>> note taking - was (no subject)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Has anyone tried these small recorders in the wind? It would be
>>> disappointing if you couldn't hear your notes later because of wind
>>> rumble.
>>> 
>>> I'm also wondering if making voice notes ever spooks birds.
>>> 
>>> Peter Shute
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
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