Is it possible that in some of these cases the photographers are using
stuffed dead animals?
Jeremy
On 5 June 2013 20:09, <
> wrote:
> Spot on Andrew!!!
> I will save others the bother of getting their books out.... A friend and
> I did this about 20 years ago with the book "Every Australian Bird
> Illustrated".
>
> Check out these photos from acclaimed photographers and naturalists.....
> Black-shouldered Kite
> Grey Goshawk
> Mountain Duck
> White-eyed Duck, for starters.
>
> These birds are either tied to the perch, have parts of their wings spread
> unnaturally (?) and out of picture or look very distressed....
>
> Thank goodness such things are not condoned these days.
>
> Yours in all things "green"
>
> John Harris
> Croydon, Vic
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> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Andrew Thelander" <>
> To: "Denise Goodfellow" <>
> Cc: "Birding Aus" <>
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Ethics in Bird-Photography
> Date: Wed, Jun 5, 2013 14:54
>
>
> Hi Tom & Denise
>
> Here's a good game for a rainy day. Get out all your bird books and
> closely examine the photos of nesting birds. You will see that some of the
> nests are exposed and in light (rather than being hidden away from the view
> of predators). In some of the photos, you will see that the adult birds
> appear stressed and annoyed. You might like to ask why this is so. Could it
> be that a photographer has pruned back the foliage to get a better shot?
>
> I have seen some heartbreaking examples of this in books. I suspect that
> nesting success was compromised.
>
> Denise is spot on - do not show nesting birds to irresponsible
> photographers!
>
> cheers
> Andrew
>
> On 05/06/2013, at 12:28 PM, Denise Goodfellow wrote:
>
> > Tom
> > One of the most often mentioned dislikes in my research on US birders was
> > photographers who did this sort of thing.
> >
> > As a guide I occasionally have had to stop this sort of behaviour. My
> > approach is not to show clients nesting birds.
> >
> > Denise Lawungkurr Goodfellow
> > PO Box 71, NT 0841
> > 043 8650 835
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 5/6/13 9:06 AM, "Tom Tarrant" <> wrote:
> >
> >> Recently a birding-friend asked me an interesting question regarding
> >> bird-photography ethics, he found a picture in the National Geographic
> >> magazine that showed an adult bird feeding a fledgling away from the
> nest
> >> on a rather artificial-looking perch and wondered if the young bird had
> >> been taken from the nest by a photographer to create a 'better-looking'
> >> photograph.
> >>
> >> H
> >> e sent me a link to the photo but I'm not going to post it publicly, as
> it
> >> could be legitimate and he doesn't want to unfairly accuse someone but
> he
> >> would like to approach Nat Geo regarding the matter.
> >>
> >> This is part of what he wrote:
> >>
> >> ***"I don't want unfairly publicly accuse someone. I may write directly
> to
> >> National Geographic but I want to canvas the views of a few experts
> first.
> >> Would you also be able to discreetly ask acquaintances you think may be
> >> able to give an informed opinion or help provide a suitable response to
> >> NatGeo? There are many other photos on the internet showing chicks
> which I
> >> suspect were removed from their nests in the quest for a clearer shot.
> I've
> >> heard of a number of cases of nest abandonment due to excessive and very
> >> close approaches by photographers. Saw more than 10 photographers in
> Kaeng
> >> Krachan (Thailand) crowding rather too closely around an Orange-bellied
> >> Trogon on a nest. Although I don't know what the outcome was in that
> one.*
> >> "
> >>
> >> Would love to hear your opinion on the subject either on this forum or
> >> indirectly to me and I will pass on any messages. I will also cross-post
> >> this on the Orientalbirding mailing-list.
> >>
> >> Tom
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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