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Unknown Tern @ Eastlakes Golf Course

To: Mark and Amanda Young <>, "" <>, "" <>
Subject: Unknown Tern @ Eastlakes Golf Course
From: Nikolas Haass <>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 03:02:33 -0800 (PST)
Hi Mark,

Sibirian Common Tern (longipennis) is the typical Common Tern in Australia, the 
nominate subspecies (hirundo) is a vagrant here. I am not sure about the status 
of the Asian subspecies minussenis. So, most likely all Common Terns you have 
seen before in Australia were Sibirian Common Terns.

Cheers,

Nikolas
 
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Nikolas Haass

Sydney, NSW


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 From: Mark and Amanda Young <>
To: 'Nikolas Haass' <>; ; 
 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 8:18 PM
Subject: RE: [Birding-Aus] Unknown Tern @ Eastlakes Golf Course
 

Thanks Nickolas, I’ve not seen a Siberian one before. 
 
Regards,
Mark
 
From:Nikolas Haass  
Sent: Monday, 26 November 2012 7:37 PM
To: Mark and Amanda Young; ; 

Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Unknown Tern @ Eastlakes Golf Course
 
Hi Mark,
 
Yes, Siberian Common Tern. Longish, slender, slightly drooping black bill. Dark 
triangles on the upper primaries (not quite as nice as the classic 'wedges' in 
nominate Common Tern). Broad and diffuse trailing edge to the under primaries. 
Not really translucent secondaries (although the shot from underneath against 
the light may trick here). Greyish outer rectrices. All fits well for Siberian 
Common Tern. The not so prominent dark carpal bars may indicate first 
summer/second winter?
 
Cheers,
 
Nikolas
 
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Nikolas Haass

Sydney, NSW

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From:Mark and Amanda Young <>
To: 'Nikolas Haass' <>; ; 
 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 7:19 PM
Subject: RE: [Birding-Aus] Unknown Tern @ Eastlakes Golf Course
 
Thanks Alan and Nikolas for the reply. I’m glad you both thought Common, 
because that’s where my thoughts were going too. But I don’t know enough of 
these birds to be confident of an ID.
 
I hope these next 2 photos help.
 
This was taken around the same time as the first one. http://bit.ly/S6PCCg
This one was taken about an hour later. Unfortunately I’m aiming in the 
direction of the sun. I can’t say for sure it’s the same bird, but I assume it 
was because I didn’t see another Tern when I was there. http://bit.ly/TopMvI
 
Regards,
Mark
 
 
From:Nikolas Haass  
Sent: Monday, 26 November 2012 9:15 AM
To: Mark and Amanda Young; ; 

Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Unknown Tern @ Eastlakes Golf Course
 
Hi Mark,
 
Looks like a longipennis Common Tern to me. Do you have more photos? Including 
the upperparts?
 
Cheers,
 
Nikolas
 
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Nikolas Haass

Sydney, NSW

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From:Mark and Amanda Young <>
To: ;  
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Unknown Tern @ Eastlakes Golf Course

G'day everyone



I'm having a bit of trouble trying to properly ID a Tern I saw last Monday.



I've had a look n HANZAB, but I can't reconcile it to any of the commic
terns. I'm quite stumped with this one, so any help would be much
appreciated.



Link: http://bit.ly/V5B61S



Regards,
Mark

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