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Computer ID of birds

To: Carl Clifford <>
Subject: Computer ID of birds
From: John Wright <>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 20:20:30 +0900
Thanks Carl:

You're right - someone will come up with regional editions down the
track if the licensing fees are not too steep. The hard part will be
getting all the audio samples - seems you need dozens of reliable
source recordings of each call of each species to make a comparison
file for the software to reference for greater accuracy.....could be
challenging in regions lagging behind North America and Europe in the
field recording area.

Cheers,

John

On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Carl Clifford <> wrote:
> John,
>
> I am not sure that the University of Wisconsin is quite up to that. A big 
> job. They may be happy to lease the algorithms though. They are a pretty 
> public spirited lot, having given the world the technology of using UV light 
> to produce vitamin D and also the anticoagulant Warfarin.
>
> Perhaps some entrepreneurial type in Australia might wish to take up the 
> torch for an Australian version.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Carl Clifford
>
> On 15/11/2012, at 19:36, John Wright <> wrote:
>
>> Looks interesting - I hope they expand it to be worldwide coverage!
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Carl Clifford <> 
>> wrote:
>>> Chris,
>>>
>>> There is an app for North American species (WeBIRD) being launched next 
>>> year. See http://www.news.wisc.edu/19882
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Carl Clifford
>>>
>>> On 15/11/2012, at 10:54, Chris Sanderson <> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>
>>>> A program that identifies bird calls has already been developed in the US, 
>>>> but only for research as yet.  I last heard about it at the Australasian 
>>>> Ornithological Conference in 2011, but they were up to about 90% accuracy 
>>>> on ID from memory.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Dave Torr <> wrote:
>>>> Interesting - the very first birding database I used was called Merlin. I
>>>> used it for a couple of years then the guy who developed it told his users
>>>> he was going off to be a Buddhist monk and would no longer support the
>>>> product so I moved on....
>>>>
>>>> And then of course we need one that identifies calls - there are services
>>>> that will identify music I know (you play a sample you heard on the radio
>>>> and it tells you what the music was) but this would be a bit harder I
>>>> suppose - or maybe it already exists?????
>>>>
>>>> On 15 November 2012 10:34, Carl Clifford <> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear B-A,
>>>>>
>>>>> Cornell Lab of Ornithology is developing a project called Merlin. This aim
>>>>> of this project is to develop software that enables computers to identify
>>>>> birds from images. See
>>>>> http://dev.nabirds.org/Web/Tools/ImageUpload/pages/about.php
>>>>>
>>>>> Given the advances in human biometrics, I imagine that computer ID of
>>>>> birds is quite doable. Wonder how long it will take for the technology to
>>>>> appear in handheld devices? After all, how many of us say, 10-15 years 
>>>>> ago,
>>>>> would have thought that an all singing, all dancing field guide in a
>>>>> smartphone type device would be possible?
>>>>>
>>>>> An interesting space to watch.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Carl Clifford
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