OK, the abstract is available at http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nature11631.html
It has been published online, which means to say the paper version
will be out in a week or so. The current reference is Nature (2012)
doi:10.1038/nature11631
Received 05 April 2012 Accepted 28 September 2012 Published online 31
October 2012
Regards, Laurie.
On 02/11/2012, at 1:44 PM, Jeremy O'Wheel wrote:
Interesting Andrew. I did notice from the families circle that their
analysis seemed to confirm Hackett et al. (2008), rather than
Pacheco et al
(2011) - but I guess from what you say, and the time of which they
started
the study, that they may have used the same data as Hackett, rather
than
confirming it. I'd really like to see a version with the individual
species represented, but I guess such an image might not exist.
Jeremy
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Andrew Hobbs
<> wrote:
I haven't read the full paper, only the abstract. There is some
controversy as to the accuracy of the tree. Apparently they put
the tree
together using currently known sequences. However a lot of those
sequences
are only mitochondrial sequences which are rather limited (partly
simply
due to the size of the mitochondrial genome). That limitation
means that
for a lot of the linkages the evidence is somewhat flimsy. In
addition for
some 30% of bird species there is no DNA sequence data of any
sort. In
that case they relied on published morphological and
paleontological data
and we know how reliable that is.
Cheers
Andrew
On 2/11/2012 8:47 AM, Tony Lawson wrote:
You can see the tree (circle?) at:
http://25.media.tumblr.com/**tumblr_mcs62sJxRl1rx70ego1_**1280.gif<http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcs62sJxRl1rx70ego1_1280.gif
>
-----Original Message----- From: Jeremy O'Wheel
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 11:03 AM
To: birding-aus
Subject: [Birding-Aus] Complete bird phylogenetic tree
Apparently this week's Nature has published a complete
evolutionary family
tree of all extant species of birds in the world. I couldn't find
the
article on the website, but here is a press release from the
University of
Tasmania:
http://www.utas.edu.au/tools/**recent-news/news/first-family-**
tree-created-for-all-living-**bird-species<http://www.utas.edu.au/tools/recent-news/news/first-family-tree-created-for-all-living-bird-species
>
Regards,
Jeremy
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