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Emerald Dove RFI: Pacific or Common?

To: Carl Weber <>
Subject: Emerald Dove RFI: Pacific or Common?
From: Alastair Smith <>
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 16:46:02 +1100
Carl,
To add to your Australian lists of references, on Eremaea we have:


natalis Christmas Island  (Indian Ocean)
chrysochlora E Lesser Sundas, e Australia, New Guinea and adj. islands (which I 
presume includes LHI)
longirostris N Australia (n Western Australia and Northern Territory)

Regards
Alastair 

> Hi Birders,
> 
> 
> 
> There appear to be inconsistencies in the naming of Pacific Emerald Dove and
> Common Emerald Dove.  At least some birders have adopted the name Pacific
> (Chalcophaps longirostris) for birds from eastern Australia and Lord Howe
> Island etc, and Common (Chalcophaps indica) for birds from the Top End. This
> would seem to be a logical thing to do.  However, according to both bird
> guide books Pizzey & Knight and Simpson & Day, the former race longirostris
> applies to birds from the Top End. If so, the abovementioned naming practice
> would seem to be back to front.
> 
> 
> 
> So, has someone got something wrong? Was it the guide books, who some years
> ago incorrectly reversed the locations of the 2 dove races? Or was it the
> IOC, who accidentally ascribed the names Pacific and Common to the wrong
> species? Certainly, the name Pacific should logically apply to the species
> that inhabits the Pacific coast of Australia and adjacent islands.
> 
> 
> 
> A summary of some public information is set out below:
> 
> 
> 
> P&K; S&D
> 
> Chalcophaps indica - race rogersi  (formerly chrysochlora) - eastern
> Australia, Lord Howe Is - picture shows plain green back.
> 
> Chalcophaps indica - race longirostris - Kimberley & Top End - picture shows
> grey & white bars on back. 
> 
> 
> 
> IOC Checklist 3.1
> 
> 4859.  Common Emerald Dove  - Chalcophaps indica - OR, AU - widespread.
> 
> 4866.  Pacific Emerald Dove - Chalcophaps longirostris - AU - Australasia.
> 
> 
> 
> Birding for Devils
> 
> 366 - 14 Feb - Common Emerald Dove - Christmas Island
> 
> 130 - 19 Jan - Pacific Emerald Dove - Lake Eacham, Qld
> 
> 
> 
> M Roderick on B.Aus
> 
> re: Emerald Doves, but as far as I understand it C. indica ("Common") occurs
> in the Top End and Kimberley and this species also ranges into SE Asia.
> whereas C. longirostris ("Pacific") is the one found on the East Coast of
> Australia and Pacific Islands (including Lord Howe). C. natalis (from
> Christmas Island) is retained as a subspecies of (presumably) C. indica.  
> 
> 
> 
> Hoping that someone out there can bring all this to the attention of those
> in power.
> 
> 
> 
> Carl Weber
> 
> 
> 
> If I could tick both species I wouldn't be so concerned, but as I can only
> tick one, I do need to know which one.
> 
> 
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