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UNSOLICITED SPAM EMAILS

To: Clive Nealon <>
Subject: UNSOLICITED SPAM EMAILS
From: Graham Buchan <>
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 21:51:22 +1000
Hi Clive,

There was nothing mean-spirited about it. I do not remember Herbert's previous 
emails. I tried to help Herbert in his fund-raising efforts.

Cheers,

Graham

On 27/04/2012, at 9:45 PM, Clive Nealon wrote:

> Well, if you're going to 'take the time to waste their time.' why not do it 
> directly.
> I didn't need my time wasted by a mean spirited rant.
> Herbert's name and his activity has been aired before on Birding -aus and did 
> not seem odd,
> at least to me.
>  
> Regards, Clive.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Graham Buchan <>
> To: Bird Uganda Safaris <>
> Cc: Birding-Aus Birding-Aus <>
> Sent: Fri, Apr 27, 2012 7:19 pm
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] UNSOLICITED SPAM EMAILS
> 
> Dear Herbert,
> 
> If I was raising funds from Uganda (a country whose human rights record is 
> notorious) I would seek the support of influencers who know what I do and its 
> value, before sending out emails to people I don't know. Sending emails to 
> potential donors one has never met as "Dear friend" is pointless. As for mass 
> spam e-mails,  I suggest you DON'T do it. 
> 
> I wholly support women's education - the discovery of DNA's nature was due to 
> the talents and endurance of Rosalind Franklin. 
> 
> If I have caused you hurt, then I am truly sorry -  please regard this as a 
> learning exercise - we get so many spam emails seeking funds from African 
> nationals that I thought it's another con-artist. In every such case I take 
> the 
> time to waste their time.
> 
> Carl - your view is understandable. You should, however, have supported 
> Herbert 
> by expressing support for his bona fides in Herbert's email. Post-hoc 
> criticism 
> is facile.
> 
> I will continue to unashamedly jump on suspect emails sent to me. 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Graham
> 
> On 27/04/2012, at 8:26 PM, Carl Clifford wrote:
> 
> > Graham,
> > 
> > Herbert is kosher. He is the owner operator of Uganda Birding Safaris Ltd 
> (www.birdinguganda.com), a legitimate company. His project to help educate 
> young 
> women escape the grinding poverty that so many women in Uganda must endure 
> due 
> to lack of educational opportunities. I think you owe Herbert an apology, if 
> you 
> can bring yourself to do it.
> > 
> > Carl Clifford 
> > 
> > Sent from my iPad
> > 
> > On 27/04/2012, at 19:57, Graham Buchan <> wrote:
> > 
> >> Dear Herbert,
> >> 
> >> How many millions do you want? I have friends at The World Government (led 
> >> By 
> CIA informant Clive Palmer) and if you deposit A$100 million into BSA 012341 
> Ac 
> 209090978, then you are every naive.
> >> 
> >> Best,
> >> 
> >> Friend.
> >> 
> >> On 27/04/2012, at 4:58 PM, Bird Uganda Safaris wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Dear friend,
> >>> Its been long since I heard from you. I hope you are doing well.
> >>> I came back to the office this morning from tourist guides training
> >>> excercise that I started in Feb this year.  The first course I conducted
> >>> was a beginers guides course in Uganda, then went to Rwanda Nyungwe forest
> >>> for a 3 and half weeks bird guides course, came back to south western
> >>> Uganda to conduct a course of Cultural tourist guides, and ended up in
> >>> Kampala to offer a 10days course for Senior guides.  I love to do this 
> >>> with
> >>> passion, with hope that our people can be involved in the tourism
> >>> activities professionally and earn something to support their families. 
> >>> Iam
> >>> also interested in the improved and better standards of guiding services 
> >>> in
> >>> the Region.
> >>> 
> >>> As a self made guide and a birder, I also still feel there is  need to
> >>> support women education. I thought about this for quite sometime, until I
> >>> decided to start something. I appreciate my mother's role in upbringing 
> >>> me.
> >>> She really worked hard to ensure that I go to school. Of course my home,
> >>> just outside Queen Elizabeth National Park, Rutoto is  a very poor and
> >>> hopeless village. But my mother would rather spend a whole day distilling 
> >>> a
> >>> local gin ( waragi) and sell it to ensure that I go to school. This 
> >>> however
> >>> stopped at the age of 9. My uncle helped me for one year and later dropped
> >>> me. Life became a challenge. I took me 33 years to get a degree in 
> >>> tourism.
> >>> Iam soon starting putting down notes of my life in my book " The journey
> >>> from Rutoto to Los Angeles" .  I feel mothers do a great job in this 
> >>> world.
> >>> In Africa we have challenges of culture, religions, and customs. Sometimes
> >>> women are not given a chance to go to school especially at a young and
> >>> tender stage, on sill reason that they will get married and go away to 
> >>> live
> >>> in other families. Also some of our cultures regard women as a source of
> >>> wealth, because when they get married, dowry is paid either money or
> >>> materials especially cows, goats, etc.
> >>> 
> >>> I know I wont do much, but this project will make some contribution to the
> >>> society. Visit it may be you will have some interest.
> >>> I will appreciate any contributions in ideas, materials, sponsorships, or
> >>> anything that will help our young girls.  Even a sentence of an idea means
> >>> a lot to this project.
> >>> 
> >>> http://birdugandacom-ugandabirder.blogspot.com/
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Thank you for visiting my blog.
> >>> 
> >>> -- 
> >>> Managing  Director
> >>> Bird Uganda Safaris Ltd
> >>> 2nd Floor Room 27
> >>> Capital Shoppers Nakawa
> >>> Kampala Uganda
> >>> Telephone +256 312289048
> >>> Fax +256 (0)414222737
> >>> Cellphone +256(0)772518290/ 0777912938
> >>> Email. 
> >>> web www.birduganda.com
> >>> 
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