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Species ID help please

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Subject: Species ID help please
From: Nikolas Haass <>
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:29:20 -0700 (PDT)
P10 on the left wing is growing in. If P10 is straight, then P9 seems to be 
missing and consequently P8 would be longest primary in the right wing. On the 
other hand - if I can count correctly - it appears that the longest primary may 
be P9 (and p10 is overly spread - hence the gap). The right wing seems to have 
all primaries in place. Anyway, I guess that something has screwed up the moult 
cycle in this bird. I still go for 3rd winter Kelp Gull. (I cannot "make it 
into" any of the Northern hemisphere dark-backed Larus-gulls).


Nikolas

 
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Nikolas Haass

Sydney, NSW


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Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 8:54 AM
Subject: Species ID help please
 
Thanks to all those who have replied on and off list.

A few people have asked to see more. The bird was a fair way out to sea and is 
tiny in the full frame so I don't have anything much better than what was 
posted on the blog but I have put together a sequence of unedited 100% crops at
http://www.smissen.net/images/UnknownSpecies.jpg

(Note this is a wide image so, depending on browser seetings, you may need to 
zoom in for full magnification.)

When asking for ID help I prefer to give no opinion because "what is this?" is 
a very different question from "is this a Kelp Gull?". I agree with others that 
it looks more like an immature Kelp Gull than anything else but I have not seen 
one with this sort of a hood before when the rest of the white parts (under 
body, tail and wing trailing edge) are so advanced.

Regarding the tern, yep, I agree it is a White-fronted Tern, not Common Tern as 
I originally ID'd it (what was I thinking?)

Thanks for your help

Cheers,
Ian Smissen
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